>>111012532 >Sure as hell can't remember police ever be anything other than cannon fodder there either. Unless its Lady Cop then you're correct. >>111012206 Patlabor and Dominoion Tank Police are the first things that come to mind.
>>111012532 Security officers have it worse though. >always portrayed as bumbling overweight morons or assholes >in real life they require an above average degree of physical fitness and are supposed to be the first to respond to any emergency Mall cops/rent-a-cops are hired via commission, they don't usually belong to a company.
>>111012206 >Are the Japanese anime makers just not fond of the police? They arent in style right now; and very few companies does Police drama without some type of sci-fi/mecha influence. I would love to see a hard boiled anime in this day and age.
>>111013017 Would Gunsmith Cats count? I mean they arent cops, but bounty hunters are close enough right? >>111013029 Cute girls doing serious criminal investigations; goign into slums and beating this shit out of people for information? Yes.
>>111013655 Hey I was trying to avoid saying "rip off" remember? It's more like a spiritual sequel thing
In fact, Wikipedia says
>Psycho-Pass originated from Production I.G.'s interest in making a successor to Mamoru Oshii's Ghost in the Shell and Patlabor;.
They share very similar settings and themes (exploring the ways technological advances could deeply affect society), the plot is structured in a similar way (the whole a "special squad solves seemingly unrelated crimes and slowly gets closer to the crazy mastermind behind it all while at the same time having to fight political interests and their players", the way each crime revolves around questionable aspects of the society they live in, the OSTs are practically the same, quoting philosophers out of the ass all the time
>>111012206 No, there never were and there will never be any anime that portray the Police in a positive light. Do you really want there to be? What the fuck? Are you a cop?
Police are horrible abusers of power who beat citizens daily and commit heinous acts of police brutality around the globe, they shoot people for holding Wii remotes (not even fucking joking: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563445/Georgia-teen-holding-Nintendo-Wii-controller-shot-police-thought-holding-gun.html ) and are just in general a terrifying menace. When is the last time you remember being actually helped by an officer of the law? The list of police brutality crimes goes on and on.
It is up to us, as citizens who the police are supposed to serve and protect, to remind them of our power and role in their management. When we leave the police to manage themselves, who will watch over them? No one, why now it is safer to call your local drug dealer than the cops if an altercation happens, lest a loved one be beaten or killed by a foolish, bad policeman.
Please delete this and all similar threads trying to suggest that the police could ever be good. Police deserve no funding, no support, and to be tortured in the same jail cells that they toss "criminals" needlessly into where they are condemned to rot and die.
>>111015332 I don't think GiTS invented the part about "special squad solves seemingly unrelated crimes and slowly gets closer to the crazy mastermind behind it all while at the same time having to fight political interests and their players". The " way each crime revolves around questionable aspects of the society they live in" isn't even worth considering, it couldn't be any other way, GiTS or not.
>OSTs are practically the same No
>quoting philosophers out of the ass all the time This happens only in Innocence. In Psycho-Pass it is especially to reinforce Shogo's pretentiousness and inetllectual high horse.
>(exploring the ways technological advances could deeply affect society) Welcome to cyberpunk and sci-fi in general.
>>111015562 What you say is true. However, an anime portraying the police in the first half of the twentieth century, even into the 1970s, would be worth watching. They weren't as feral as nowadays. Or perhaps it's only a personal romanticized view.
>>111015694 I'm not saying GITS invented those things, but if we take into account Prod IG saying they wanted a successor to GITS, I think it's safe to assume from where those elements were taken from or why they were used.
>Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
>The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado. The appeals court had permitted a lawsuit to proceed against a Colorado town, Castle Rock, for the failure of the police to respond to a woman's pleas for help after her estranged husband violated a protective order by kidnapping their three young daughters, whom he eventually killed.
>For hours on the night of June 22, 1999, Jessica Gonzales tried to get the Castle Rock police to find and arrest her estranged husband, Simon Gonzales, who was under a court order to stay 100 yards away from the house. He had taken the children, ages 7, 9 and 10, as they played outside, and he later called his wife to tell her that he had the girls at an amusement park in Denver.
>Ms. Gonzales conveyed the information to the police, but they failed to act before Mr. Gonzales arrived at the police station hours later, firing a gun, with the bodies of the girls in the back of his truck. The police killed him at the
>>111015694 I agree with you. Psycho-Pass can't hold a candle against GitS. GitS is way more serious than Psycho-Pass. Also, Psycho-Pass didn't exploit the sci-fi element. It just felt like another Urobuchi animated Greek tragedy, but this time using SF as a premise. Urobuchi should have read William Gibson before writing Psycho-Pass. If he did so, it's impossible to grasp it. Even the character design and the art direction aren't a match to what GitS achieved decades before Psycho-Pass. Maybe it's just a symptom of the moe syndrome, so prevalent in today's works. I have nothing against it, but seriously, even the holograms that the cops used in their robots? Aren't they supposed to instil fear/respect? The holograms looked like something you would use in a daycare.
>>111016861 I regard it as a stylistic choice more than an actual social critique. If not, why would the guns used by the cops should look so menacing? They should be water guns or balloon guns, or some bullshit. The idea behind the Sybil System was good. The execution quite not. In the end, it just ended as something to reinforce Shogo's character, as an anti-hero.
>>111016654 >Psycho-Pass can't hold a candle against GitS I prefer it by far to SAC1 and 2. Oshii's first movie however is on another level. It's true that SAC does more interesting things technology-wise, but it also does many things wrong and tells its story in a way that is way too complicated for its own good, and it doesn't speak emotionally to anyone. The post smells of blind Urobuchi hate though so I'm not going to say anything more. This was my opinion.
>>111017189 I don't hate him. I love Fate/Zero and Madoka. However, as far as SF goes, SAC is a better work in my opinion. Also, it spoke emotionally to me. I didn't know before watching SAC2 that I could feel sad by the "death" of some machines, the Tachikomas. And regarding the conflict, the Laughing Man is quite a better character than Shogo. He views the system as fucked up, as well as Shogo. However, he isn't glorified by the writer (like Urobuchi) just for fighting against a dystopic world.
>>111017703 >However, he isn't glorified by the writer (like Urobuchi) Shogo wasn't glorified. I have no idea how you got the impression that he was. The final episode was pretty much spent on driving home how his ideas (aside from realizing that the system was faulty) were complete bullshit and his motivations for fighting the systems were just selfish and nothing else.
>>111015956 >They weren't as feral as nowadays For Japan it was the opposite (though I doubt murikan bolis was too different back then). The prewar Japanese police was absolutely brutal and cracked down without mercy on any trespassing of the law and simple shit like gambling could get you tortured in prison. They've been extremely soft compared to that since then.
>>111017691 Why would Japan care about your constitution?
>>111017872 But at the end, when Akane confronts the Sybil System, she acknowledges, as well as everyone who watched the entire show, that the system is fucked up. She even says that someday, it will be replaced by something better. Just after foiling the plot of Shogo, the revolutionary who wanted something better than the Sybil System, and losing his nearest comrade in the process. She ends confused. Hence, she is acknowledging Shogo was right, but she is also accepting that his macabre plan doesn't fit her morality and her view of the world.
>>111018310 Acknowledging that he was right about the system being shit doesn't vindicate or glorify Shogo. The important part is how to replace the system and with what. Shogo had an answer for the first, but had none for the second and he was only sure that the new system would be better in terms of freeing the human spirit and free will. Akane didn't believe that one or a couple individuals deciding on removing Sybil would lead to a better world, and she believed that Sybil would end one day when people (and not just one guy) would realize the problems of the system themselves.
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