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http://utw.me/2014/07/08/summer-2014-and-beyond

Where were you when UTW died, /a/?
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>>110027433
Within the next 5 years all fansubbing will be dead and the only thing that will remain is crunchyroll
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>people gave them $4,000
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>>110027694
>people gave this guy $33,000

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad
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>>110027832
At least those people will get to eat some potato salad.
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So they're still doing 2wei?
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>>110027433
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>>110028035
But we still have other fansubs groups. You must be one of those faggots who think UTW is the pinnacle of quality fansubbing.
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I know CR is still going to provide us an easy source in the future but it's just not the fucking same.
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>>110027941
No, they won't.
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>>110028079
And you must be the one of those faggots who think Crunchyroll and Daisuki are the pinnacle of quality subbing in general
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>>110028079
UTW is not the first to go, nor will it be the last.
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>>110027433
Well, I can't blame him for wanting to have a life instead of being yelled at by autists. People grow up.

Medical school is not really compatible with fansubbing, and CR provides a pretty decent alternative. Now other groups can start up with only encoding and typesetting knowledge and do a good job.
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>>110028079
>Implying almost all other groups aren't just CR re-encodes.
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UTW will be missed ;-;
They probably put out the most consistent quality work
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>>110028186
The only groups besides UTW that did original translations are gg and Hadena and both are dead.

Fansubbing truly is extinct though Hadena could hardly be considered a "quality" group.
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>>110028128
You don't get my point. I said we still have other fansubs groups. You are exaggerating with that "The Day Fansubbing Died" filename as if UTW is the only group that matters, faggot.
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>>110027694
If only /a/ had donated $4000 to Your-Mom or gg. Fansubbing would have been saved.
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>>110028259
UTW and Underwater are the only groups that matter and UTW is gone
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>>110028259
Except you don't quite understand what "fansubbing" is do you? UTW is/was the last group that actually had original translations for their subs. Every other "fansub" group that you use just utilize Crunchyroll's scripts.
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>>110028256
>The only groups besides UTW that did original translations are gg and Hadena

You are wrong. There are others that sometimes use original translations instead of CR edits. Not every shows from a particular group get the same treatment, you know.
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>>110028331
>UTW is/was the last group that actually had original translations for their subs

Wrong again.
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>>110028289
>not Eclipse
I miss them more every season ;_;
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>>110028289
>gg
I'm not glad they're dead but I'm glad they're gone.
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Eclipse, Mazui and UTW. These were the only subgroups I'd use, and I'm saddened to see the state we're now in.

HorribleSubs is indeed horrible, and I wish it never existed.
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>>110027433
Time to into moon.
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>>110028560
HS is not a fansub group.
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Fansubbers are obsolete. Horriblesubs and BDs for archival purposes are all you need.
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>>110028637
That doesn't give you amazing video quality. You'd have to deal with shitty raws
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So we will never get the final half of the Shin Sekai Yori BD's?
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>>110028663
I thought people re-encoded them?
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Why doesn't CR sub the OP/ED?

Contractual?
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>>110028331
Like Underwater last season with Kanojo ga Flag, Atelier, and Sidonia?
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>>110028560
What about underwater?
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FFF, Underwater, and Vivid are all we have left now.
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>>110028726
That faggot is just pulling shit out of his ass. Even Vivid this season has one show with original translations.

http://vividsubs.github.io/aldnoah.htm

Unless he decide to act like the faggot he is and does not believe that because >muh UTW mindset.
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>SYD finished never
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Will they at least finish SYD?
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>>110027832
Still a better deal than most kickstarter campaigns.
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Will Crunchyroll ever have any competition or will they keep monopolizing the subbing industry forever?
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>>110028924
Netflix with their 'original show'.
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>>110028750
I don't care for them, and not just because of Diaz who decided to change encoding because he wanted to reduce filesizes by a couple of MB in an age where 1 GB is cheaper than something from a vending machine. Not to mention muh quality because everyone wants to preserve TV airing for some fucking reason.
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>>110028924
Funimation.
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>>110028750
>Rinne no Lagrange 2 finished never
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>>110028954
Does anyone actually use Daisuki and do any subgroups use their scripts compared to Crunchyroll? I haven't been keeping up with them since they launched.
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>>110027832
That's hilarious.
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>making a wall of text

Who gives a shit. Just say the important shit and be done with it. No one cares about the history of UTW or its members.
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>>110029032
Last time I tried to use it the video quality was so shit it made CR look good.
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>2015
>Fansubbing is kill
>Only Crunchy and Funi are available
>Neither sub shows like Ryu ku bu or Kodomo jikan for "ethical reasons"
You could have stopped this
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>>110029177
You could have stopped your shit taste.
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>>110029082
I care.
But even if you didn't, they did hide the non-important stuff in spoiler tags.
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>>110029212
No, they didn't.
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>>110029233
They did.
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>>110029177
>Donation Drive (6/30/13): $3778.13 raised.
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>>110029082
B-but muh attention.

Nearly every fansubber/scanlator/whatever is like this, nothing new under the sun. Just don't give them any attention like any rational person (unlike this attention whoring tripfag) would do.
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>UTW won't sub Fate/Stay Night next season, their namesake
People gave these guys $4000
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>>110029177
Those shows are shit, mate.
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>>110029177
Maybe you should learn moon already.
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>>110029212
>spoiler tags
Only work if you have javascript enabled.
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>>110029264
>group spends four years subbing anime for free
>people expect them to remain their fansubbing slaves for life
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>>110028722
It's usually a rights issue.
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Still waiting on SYD 12 and Puchimasu!! Batch.
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>>110028942
I don't even know how they're getting away with that statement.
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>>110029032
I use Daisuki exclusively to stream old Gundam shows like Zeta Gundam and ZZ Gundam because there aren't any good fansub releases for them.
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>>110029441
EG is going back and doing all the gundam series I believe.
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>>110029271
You're shit, mate.
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>>110029374
It's a Netflix Original anime release. It's done entirely in-house by Netflix.
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>>110029177
Then they remove the best parts from some episodes because they don't have the rights to some music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA-qmYJJUA4
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>>110029469
He put out the final patch for ZZ a few hours ago.
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>>110029469
Yep, I've got the EG 0079 release. But I don't feel like waiting for or archiving Zeta. I've watched 8 episodes so far and I'm underwhelmed if not disappointed.
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>That post
Oh please, honours year was worse than the first four semesters of med school and I still found time to watch anime and time releases for an active subgroup back then.

Raze is just a baby.
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>>110029521
Oh, well that changes things.
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>>110027433
Dropped Shit art
Kept 2wei

This is good anon.
Rejoice!
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>>110029555
Pretty sure Raze translates and doesn't do babby fagsubbing like timing.
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>>110029626
They won't do 2wei, though.
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>>110029262
If you don't like it, feel free to filter me unless you don't know how to.

Shitposting isn't against the rules but people do it anyways, likewise donning a tripcode isn't against the rules so...
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>>110029657
I lied. Global Rule 3. Well at least having a tripcode isn't a bannable offense... yet.
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>>110029651
Except that the post itself says they'll be doing it.
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>tfw my favorite fansub died
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>>110029717
Just like they're doing Nisemonogatari's BDs
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>they dropped Nise
Holy shit, fuck you Raze.
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>>110029555
>There are people on /a/ who have gone to med school
>There are people on /a/ who are doctors and surgeons
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There were only two groups who I watched every show that they subbed.

BSS and UTW. It's a shame to see them basically go Eclipse Mode.
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Fansub group dies and new groups who knows jackshit about moon and english appears. Thank Daiz
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What will be the next popular, high-quality group?
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Now I'm scared. They commented that they'll be finishing the SSY BD's, now the comment is deleted.
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From instant I saw that post announcing they wouldn't be doing any shows in the spring I knew they were finished. A subgroup that doesn't sub is done. It's just _ar limping along trying to finish projects, the group's momentum is kaput.
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>medical school
>spending hours and hours memorizing trivial trivia for meaningless exams that have no relation to actual medical work
>after medical school, a disproportionate number of residents develop depression and mental illness as they work long hours at the beck and call of the attending physicians
>if they're lucky, they get to spend their adult life--or rather, what's left of it--making a lot of money, but having to work so much that there's no time to enjoy it anyway

Typically I have nothing but contempt for (pre)medical students, but in this case I just feel sorry for him and hope he exits that toxic profession as soon as possible.

RIP
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UTW and Amagami, I will never forget you.
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>>110029834
Time to add Assassination of UTW to the list.

>>110029847
There won't be. Vivid is the only one I'd rate at the level but they aren't nearly active/notable enough.
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>>110029859
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>>110029520
Do they cut scenes regularly, or was it just for that one scene in Girls und Panzer?
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It isn't the same with Eclipse dying now with UTW possibly bowing out because the overlap between UTW and Eclipse is now not present. On the translation front, translation quality has declined slightly and has been constant since Eclipse translation days.

Is there a clear group who is clearly on UTW quality and has consistency to match? Because I really debate Raze's assertion that there is talent still in the fansubbing scene when there are so many fragmented groups that while could be on the level that UTW is, don't have the same amount of capacity or momentum they have. I don't know if fansubbing might die out soon because legitimate services are now starting to reach ubiquity in terms of speed and convenience, but slightly less in quality, to stream and broadcast shows. Japan is catching on so I have no clue when they will be able to do the same with manga but it might happen soon.
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>>110029847
Underwater, Vivid, and not FFF.
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>>110029847
[anon]
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>>110029798
>BSS
>Eclipse

Don't remind me, anon ;_;

>>110029847
Hadena will revel in this news and will be the sole translator of everything Type-Moon in the future.
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>>110029941
Vivid yes, but Underwater seems to be hit and miss.
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>>110029917
Maybe my caching just hates the comment.
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>>110028079
Daiz was the last major fansubber left standing. Without UnderTheWater, who will translate your favorite animes?
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>>110030009
>Hadena will revel in this news and will be the sole translator of everything Type-Moon in the future.
Please no
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Time to start learning moon.
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>>110029938
There will always be shows that don't get simulcast or picked up by the licensing companies or legal streams. There will always be a place for TV rips and fansubbers to sub them.

It's just going to be a greatly diminished place, a niche within a niche.

The era when anime fans depended on fansubbers to watch anime is over. Japan and the licensing companies can bring a multitude of subbed shows to fans legally, and site-rippers like HS can provide that content for free.

So that only leaves the small minority of shows that don't get legally subbed or aren't available uncensored as projects for fansubbers.

Essentially: fansubbing will become an obscure world far removed from mainstream anime, a domain of hipsters and nonconformists. This is the path ahead of us.
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>>110029713
Why would properly using a built-in feature be bannable?
It's in bad taste because this website is based on anonymity, with a feature to preserve identity when it is required for certain discussion. But that's all.
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>>110030048
>animes
>liking Daiz
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>>110030048
What ever happened to Vale?
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>>110030126
Doesn't he work at Sunrise now?
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>>110030101
But will you actually start this time?
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>>110030126
Daiz killed him.

I don't know.
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>>110030152
This time I even opened the DJT guide and read it. No clue what to do next though.
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>>110030126
Last I saw him he was logged into League of Legends but that was maybe 3 weeks ago? I haven't logged in in awhile so I don't know if he's still doing that. He's been working behind the scenes for some other groups though I believe why gg is incapacitated last I checked.
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>>110030009
>Hadena will revel in this news and will be the sole translator of everything Type-Moon in the future.
Fucking hell, I just realized that UTW won't be here to sub Fate/Stay Night next season.
That just hit me like a ton of bricks.
>>110030152
If I didn't start for Rance, I doubt I'll start for this.
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>>110029933
Funimation cut out a chunk of Dragonar because it was too lewd
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>>110030139
Oh shit, when was that? I forget the last show he subbed.
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>>110030176
50 TIMES IN THE MOTHERFUCKING NOTEBOOK.
YOU BITCH.
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>>110030111

Seeing as this is the case, could we start saying the golden era was the early to mid 2000's for fansubbing and quality? Because I don't think we'll reach that level of quality ever again.
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>>110030111
Is it wrong that I think that doesn't sound like such a bad thing?
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>>110030015
If Vivid subbed more they'd be the perfect group.
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>>110030198
He translated Patema inverted for Underwater just recently.
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>>110030193
M-maybe they'll come back just for that, r-right?
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>>110030101
>tfw scared of learning moon because you can finally understand how bad the voice acting is in some shows or cringe at some lyrics
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>>110030193
>Fucking hell, I just realized that UTW won't be here to sub Fate/Stay Night next season.

>First, about the F/SN remake airing next season. Believe me, I am extremely excited about it too and very much look forward to it. However, whether I will personally work on it or not is still up in the air. The quality and punctuality of the legal alternatives will be the deciding factor: if the simulcaster provides legitimate 720p video or above and/or the script quality isn’t completely unacceptable, I will almost certainly forego the opportunity of working on it, because, well, I think you’d agree that waking up at 3am in the morning and spending 5-6 hours to make a bunch of insignificant changes in an already decent script for a show that 90% of people have already watched because they couldn’t wait isn’t exactly a good use of my time and sanity… right?

There's still hope
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>>110030111
Why I don't think this is a bad thing?

Sure there's always a chance for capitalist bastard hogging the license and western law censor the anime.
But the potential
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>>110029938
>Because I really debate Raze's assertion that there is talent still in the fansubbing scene
Disregarding fansubbing. Raze is right when it comes to his assertions of CR's translators.

The better half of CR does rival the better half of fansubbing.
It's mostly just that the rest of CR has a tough time to compete. And as subtitles can never be delayed with CR's business model, a translator calling in sick due to whatever can cause them problems if they can't get another competent translator to fill in for him.
But otherwise CR really is good. A lot of their translations are great, even if some are indeed sorely lacking.

A common mistake /a/ does is to simply judge everything a group does from nothing but their brand. Disregarding how the work itself varies from show to show and release to release.
Judging fansubbing in this manner was already unsuitable enough as it is. And judging CR this way is probably even less good of an idea, considering how CR has more translators than any fansub group, and thus the releases does vary.
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>>110030226
Hahaha no
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>>110027433
>As for the second title, Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Ilya 2wei!, __ar has plans to push ahead with it and has already assembled a team for it; I will be assisting as a consultant but will not be directly working on the release itself.

it's cool
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>>110030233
Only time will tell, but personally I distrust this new era of fansubbing. It's too centralized. The way things are going, soon every show will have only one source for subtitles.

The real danger is losing capable translators who can translate from scratch. If those people completely quit the scene, then fansubbing will be fucked beyond repair if anything happens to the centralized subbing system that's coming into place.
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>>110030297
Nah, he won't do that
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>>110030293
The VAs are trained since elementary school, you will get quality voice acting most of the time. Now the music is questionable.
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>>110030293
That's actually a good reason to continue for me.
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>>110030293
I already cringe at some of the voice acting.
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>>110030293
It is worth it.
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>>110030293
>because you can finally understand how bad the voice acting is in some shows
Not really an issue, bad voice acting is bad voice acting and should be clear regardless of how much you know the language. Maybe how awkward some lines really are, but that's the writing's fault and not really the actor's.
>cringe at some lyrics
You've got me there.
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>>110030293
I've never gotten why people think this.
Perception of tone and intonation is completely irrelevant to the language.
Don't tell me you've never been able to tell when a VA was doing a half-assed job or, or really putting his heart into it.

Pronunciation, on the other hand, is a completely different matter.
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>start learning moon.
You realize that when you have a basic understanding of Nippongo, horrible subs are fine. you only look at the subtitles when you run into unfamiliar vocabulary. Unless you care about video quality, which I don't because I have a small computer screen. Then again, it shouldn't much matter unless you're watching on your fucking TV.
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>>110030293
>cringe at lyrics
You can just read the translated karaoke OP and see how bad it actually is.
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>>110030355
The only thing that I can imagine being bad from it is if they start restricting which shows they decide to license and sub. If something is too graphic or too lewd or too immoral, they may not sub that and then that's were fansub groups come in, right?
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>>110027433
Every fansubbing person is a holy man, just respect for what they've done.

The fact that they dropped salad art 2 makes them even better
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So just curious, but why haven't we boycotted HS/CR yet?

The only reason I ever pick them is because they are the fastest. I never find myself amazed by their subtitles and definitely not their video quality. Meanwhile other subgroups release good quality encodes and subs that are done from a viewer's perspective instead of a businessman's perspective.
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Oh look, /a/ is over reacting. what a shocker.
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>>110030411
I can only tell if the voice acting is bad if I recognize some the words. A bad "sugoi onii chan" is a bad sugoi onii chan, a bad Hong Kong ching ching just sounds like gibberish. When I was first watching anime I tuned out the voice acting completely to read the subs, and sometimes I still tune out the vocal track.
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>>110030471
...because it's only one of two legal options for localized anime that is released around the same time as Japan?
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>>110030116
Fuck Daiz. Up his tight little ass.
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You faggots are spoiled.

When you try to find subs for variety shows it's all fucking google translate.

Learning moon is the easier option than trying to understand that.
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>>110030458

But CR isn't a monopoly, right? I would trust other commercial groups to pick up the slack if they refuse to do it but I really wonder if they are comparable.
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>>110030471
>boycotted HS
Do you want them to go bankrupt by not downloading their animes?
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>>110030320
I am against putting all my eggs in one basket. One of the best advantages to fansubbing before CR was how decentralized it was. If one group had delays or couldn't finish a series, there would be another group working on same anime. The redundancy of subs for shows is a great boon to fans because it gives us options and gives us backups in case one group fails.

But if CR becomes the only source of subs, that's risky because you're essentially betting that CR will never fail to deliver. It's an all or nothing bet that quite frankly I see no point in making. So that's why even though I'm not opposed to CR I'm very much opposed to the growing mentality fansubbers have that "if CR's doing it there's no point"

This mindset will only lead to disaster. CR will not be around forever, anime is doing good business for now but that won't always be the case.
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>>110030567
the important thing to remember is that markets do not immediately and instantly equilibriate

so, eventually, perhaps, but who knows when it'll happen
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>>110030471
>because they are the fastest

Answered your own question.

Personally, I don't mind waiting one or two days for a fansub release (or an AT-X release for thóse shows) but I don't really want to repeat what happened last season )I was one of the twelve people who watched WhyNot's Ping Pong, even though it was the exact same as CR script-wise)
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Also

>>110030471
>Meanwhile other subgroups release good quality encodes
Not always. Subgroups who use MX as a base look worse than CR encodes, which are honestly pretty good.
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>>110030471
Wow, whatever will CR do without you pirating their anime? Meanwhile the 200k or whatever subscribers over at CR are paying for the localization.
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>>110030655
> * (
I need sleep, goodnight.
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>>110030627
I just don't want other subgroups to get the impression that we're ok with them.
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>I had the extra time to catch up on Game of Thrones, find a new girlfriend, and go wakeboarding.
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>>110030690
>implying everyone won't watch the fastest English option available. Why wait 6+ hours to start discussing an anime?
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>>110030690
But we are ok with them.
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>>110030646
And then we will probably have couple years of only one or two shows get translated per season.
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>>110030716
You're okay with wordy subs, artifacts, and banding?
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>>110030746
I guess. I never get artifacts in CR rips.
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>>110030746
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>>110030690
If fansubbers were to stop due to a lack of appreciation, they'd have stopped a long time ago.
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>>110030646
Isn't fansubs in 200x is like this anyway?
With fansubs like Eclipse, SS, or Your-mom just the only one subbing the anime.
But yeah, I know your worries.
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Most release won't even be typesetted in 3 years at most. My worst nightmares are coming true.

>>110030665
>Subgroups who use MX as a base look worse than CR encodes, which are honestly pretty good.
It really depends on the show, and TV rips have the advantage of being encoded in 10bit h264.
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>>110030743
That's a worst case scenario. The scene will recover because the need will drive more people to pick up fansubbing again, but it'll be like the fall of Rome. We'll have to rebuild.
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>>110030780
They're there, just don't look for them. Once you notice them, there's no way back.
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It's sad to see them go but it can't be helped.
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>>110030665
>Not always. Subgroups who use MX as a base look worse than CR encodes, which are honestly pretty good.

Not always. Shows like Akame ga Kill are fucked six ways to Sunday on CR with all the banding crawling across every scene.

Generally, sub groups don't use Tokyo MX because they want to, but because it's the least bad option.
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>>110030746
madvr debanding works pretty well.
And the subs are 90% good enough, that's even the point of the entire blog post.

>if the simulcaster provides legitimate 720p video or above and/or the script quality isn’t completely unacceptable, I will almost certainly forego the opportunity of working on it, because, well, I think you’d agree that waking up at 3am in the morning and spending 5-6 hours to make a bunch of insignificant changes in an already decent script for a show that 90% of people have already watched because they couldn’t wait isn’t exactly a good use of my time and sanity… right?
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>>110030706

Quality over speed.
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>>110030944
Why need it to discuss anime.

Also, if you want to store the anime you can always download the BDs
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>>110030944
I was under the impression that most people who pirate their anime watch speed and archive quality though and 1% of those watch both speed and quality to compare.
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>>110030820
>TV rips have the advantage of being encoded in 10bit h264
You can encode CR rips in 10 bit you know.
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>>110031015
Most people do favor speed, if you look at the download numbers on nyaa for releases every week the first release generally has the most.

But there's a segment of the pirates who will hold out for quality even for weekly releases. I'm one of those. I only use HS if subs are substantially delayed or if there really are no other subs.

An exception is during the first few weeks of the new season, where I download every single release for a show to compare subs, including CR/HS (usually because they're way faster in week 1.
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>>110031089
>reencoding
>ever
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>>110030706
There will still be discussion 6 hours later.
There will still be discussion the next day.
There will still be discussion when a higher quality release is uploaded.
Some people just aren't in any rush to watch stuff or they just want something that looks better.
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>>110030471
>So just curious, but why haven't we boycotted HS/CR yet?
Holy shit you're stupid.
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>>110031133
>Some people just aren't
They want the bigger audience for the epeen
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>>110031015

I'll prefer to wait until a reliable release is out and HorribleSubs is a last resort.
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>>110031133
Some shows don't get a lot of discussion and only have active threads right after the CR broadcast.
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>>110031130
How do you think TV rips work? Like other anons have said, Tokyo MX is way worse than CR rips.
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>>110028663
Or he could just download the subbed release and turn the subs off.
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>>110031130
Groups have been using CR as a base for their encodes for a while now.
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>I went through a couple girlfriends
>This is the group you gave $4000 to
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>>110031254
Are you retarded?
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>>110031133
I would say many shows only get discussion on the day they release.
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>>110030471
Because CR/HS is like fast food, most people are too lazy to wait until they get home, and eat a wholesome meal.
So they knowingly eat shit just because it's fast and convenient.
Then there are the retards who think that the shit they eat is the best thing ever, with no other alternative.
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>>110031305
>implying that jpg would harm the ability to see the difference.
Actually, the HS one was from Funi which has even worse video than CR. And I didn't fix the contrast in the HS image. Still way better than the fansub video. If it weren't for Funi hardsubs, they would have gone for a web rip instead of shitty Tokyo MX.
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The old fansubs claimed that they were accurate and original. Ours are ripped from localized and Americanized sumulcasts. In our subs there will be no emotions except stiff awkwardness, inappropriate swearing, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy. Everything.

We shall abolish the community. Our localizers and typesetters are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the rippers. There will be no love, except the love of our e-peen. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a hopelessly slow rival. There will be no honorifics, no karaoke, no decent typesetting.

There will be no actual work, no enjoyment of the process of translating. All competing releases will be the same. But always — do not forget this, /a/nonymous — always there will be the intoxication of undeserved praise, constantly increasing and constantly being given. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of reading plebian comments, the satisfaction of knowing people are downloading OUR torrents. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a Crunchyroll script on every anime torrent — forever.
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>>110031235
Meaning you still rely on fansubbers, so what's the diff?
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Where are my god damn SYD subs UTW?
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>>110031519
You what? He'd just be grabbing better encodes without using the subs.
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>>110029938
>Japan is catching on so I have no clue when they will be able to do the same with manga but it might happen soon.
Never going too happen, there's too much manga being published at a single point.
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And so it goes.
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>>110031571
And who are the ones doing the better encodes? It's part of the package of fansubbing.
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>>110030919
CR was objectively better than MX for Love Live
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>>110031587
If manga get's centralized, it would potentially open up a completely new market and create thousands of jobs BECAUSE there are so many manga. Many Japanese and English speakers would have a viable and sustainable occupation. Not to mention jobs for those who are willing to typeset and clean/redraw unless Japan provides the manga without text.
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>>110031305
QUALITY
COMIN' RIGHT AT YA
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>>110031699
That's just grabbing a better option if it's there. If fansubs just up and died he'd still be ok, because there's still be raw rips.
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>>110031765
Are you being dense on purpose? Did you read the trail of conversation that you've been replying to?
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whatever, as long as the are groups releasing BD rips with passable typesetting nise bds when?
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>>110031133

Tell that to the SYD threads fucker.
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>>110031386
>plebian
It's spelled "plebeian". God, I absolutely hate you.
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>>110031851
>Status: Dropped due to Raze being ded with University
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>>110031829
Are you, because you seem to not understand what you're talking about.
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>>110027433
http://cthuko.nyaa.eu/2014/07/08/summer-plans-and-status-update/

Even Cthuko is dead.
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>>110031234
Not always.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/78220

The back of his head isn't meant to look like a lens flare, if you were wondering.
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>>110031740
>manga
>ever being centralized
Haha no. There's 3 big manga publishing companies (Shueisha, Kodansha, and Shogakukan) constantly trying to outdo each other as well as a bunch of other smaller companies publishing other more niche series and adaptations. They also don't pay much to their most important employees (mangaka and assistants) so them pitching up to try something like CR for manga (notice how CR's manga selection is very small) wouldn't really work. It also doesn't help that said 3 big companies have their own English publishing companies that they go to or own normally. If the scanlation scene with its immense size can't handle even most of the currently published manga there's no way that companies that are trying to make money could without taking big risks.
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>>110031948
The end times are here.
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>>110031948

Literally who.
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>>110031948
Cthuko was never alive.
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>>110032018
The only group that subbed the best show last fall.
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>>110032075
I love Yozakura Quartet so much.
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>>110031851
there is that group doing the commentaries for nise, maybe they will do something decent whenever they get to the point of overtaking what utw has released.
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I actually blame HorribleSubs, not Crunchyroll.

People watching Crunchyroll won't download their anime anyways, but people watching HorribleSubs would have downloaded proper releases, had HorribleSubs not been faster.
Then, fansubbers seeing an inferior, but due to direct access slightly acceptable and much faster released product being downloaded in favour of their stuff makes them feel unneeded, when, in fact, they're still needed if you want high quality.
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>>110030224
Fuck I'm still in lesson 7
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>>110027433
I hope that subbing in general dies.

Motivate me to learn japanese.
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>>110032186
HorribleSubs want to destroy anime. They provide these free ripps to get ridd of competetion, and then when they've gotten ridd of them they'll bail. We'll be left with nothing.
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>>110032265
Then someone else will ripp them its not some voodoo magic that only they know how to do.
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>>110032265
I'm pretty sure anybody with a script and a seedbox can do what horriblesubs does if they go.
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>>110032075

Looking at their releases it seems they have only ever done 3 bad shows.

No wonder I had never heard of them.
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>>110032319
>>110032307
But, fansubbing would be dead.
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>>110032265
learn jap before that happens
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>>110032346
If fansubbing dies [anon] will rise and it will live once again.
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How about returning those donations?
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>>110032346
It's dying anyways, even if HS didn't exist, someone else would fill the void. Everyone knew this was going to happen when CR first came out.
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>>110031707
Yes, absolutely. But generally any show Sentai licenses will be unfixably fucked on CR. See Akame, Isshuukan, NGNL, and Black Bullet (not sure if the last one is Sentai but it's terrible on CR either way).
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>>110032438

>returning donations

You're new to this aren't you goy?
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>eclipse
>utw
>gg
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>>110032336
>3
They only did 2 bad shows.
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>>110032498

GG was the best of them. Because if it was a serious they actually liked they had good subs, and if it was generic shit they made troll subs and made all the shit eaters on /a/ mad.
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Since we're on the subject of subs...

Where does Netflix get their subs?

>Puts on helmet
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>>110032530
They make their own, unless they steal them or ask for permission from someone else.
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>>110032530
>>Puts on helmet
You're fucking retarded. Never *action* ever again.
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>>110028084
CR rips have horrible quality, no typesetting whatsoever and not the best translation around (though it got a lot better and is the least of my concerns).

Its always sad to see good groups go. I hope we'll not lose EveTaku and other quality groups go the same way.
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>>110032498
They all sucked donkey cocks.
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Serious question so if you have an answer, please, I'd like to hear it:

Why didn't fansubbers ever switch to just releasing subtitle scripts (.srt/.ass/.sub)? That way they could be used with whatever video file a person already had and they could be worked on in leisure. I mean, I go after the first release I can get my hands on like most people but I also keep & collect my anime so I would definitely be for snagging a quality script when it became available to be used as the default sub.
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>>110032498
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>>110032557

Okay. Cause last year I watched most of Brotherhood on Netflix and found it to be pretty aight. I recently watched Death Note and didn't really find any issues with the subs. Only a few times did the typesetting bother me, which is rather impressive.

I appreciate that Netflix is trying to breathe some competition into the market. Good on them.
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>>110032628
Because the timing would be off.
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>>110032526
I liked their jojo subs
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>>110032601
Nah, they started doing some minor typesetting of signs with colors and outlines. I saw it in NGNL at least.
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>>110032628

Because people are too lazy to load a sub file. And there's no guarantee also rips would synch up correctly.
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>>110032628
>That way they could be used with whatever video file a person already had and they could be worked on in leisure.
Because timing and picture size
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>>110032650
Why would the timing be different if raws all are the same episode and have the same tokyo grand christmas part.
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>>110032650
>>110032667
>needing frame accurate subtitles for anime where mouth movements don't match up anyway
Anime timers are autistic in making sure their lines change exactly when the frame changes, but most people wouldn't notice.
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>>110032628
Just rip the sub track yourself if you think it is that good.

But things like timing and encode quality differs from group to group and it would just be a bit of a mess.
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>>110032601
Why does typesetting matter, it usually seems like an excuse to have obnoxious pink or special colored subs.
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>>110032703
>most people wouldn't notice.
Maybe I'm autistic but I get really annoyed when subtitles aren't in sync. That goes for anything, not just anime.
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>>110032703

It could be something as simple as a rip having a second or two of extra nothingness at the beginning, which would throw off the subs by 1-2 seconds. Which is very noticeable.
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>>110032740
But mistiming like that takes one or two button presses to fix in MPC.
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>>110032762

And people are dumb and lazy.
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>>110032762
>needing to memorize keyboard shortcuts to watch your anime

And you make fun of us linuxfags.
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>>110032762
What if the mistiming happens somewhere in the middle of the video?
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>>110032790
Then that sucks, but he was talking about stuff at the beginning.
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>>110032732
Right, but in anime you literally can't notice off-sync by a few frames, due to lip movements not being accurate in the first place.

Other than signs hanging around too long, etc.
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>>110032771
Are linuxfags so retarded they think having to press 1 or 2 buttons is a chore? For an issue that 99% of the time doesn't come up?
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>>110032819


It could just as easily happen in the middle during a commercial break shit, or those damn music groups they love to shove down your throat on the jap anime channels.
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>>110032771
But I thought all linuxfags have kawaii animu desktops anyway,
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>>110032860
You don't?
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>>110032836
The problem is that most desyncs aren't just a few frames, they are 1-2 seconds of desync which is about 24-48 frames and is very noticeable.
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>>110032771
but it's the same situation in mpv
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>>110032891
where did you get that from, do you know where you are?
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>>110032857
Or a super random funny commercial
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>>110031948
>There has been steady progress with those shows and we will be focusing on whatever we have left. You can expect a couple of releases this season so be sure to check back every so often!

They're not picking up anything new but they are working on old stuff. They could easily pick up new stuff next season.
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>>110032970

I really like that [gg] left those in.
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>>110032836
Scene-bleeds are very noticeable and annoying, at least for me, and they are usually only a few frames
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I actually cannot fucking believe that every fansub group I used to watch back in the day is dead now.

Holy fucking shit.
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>>110032999
weeb
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>Crunchyroll shuts down
>Horriblesubs shuts down
What happens then?
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>>110032860
>not having an actual anime as your desktop at all times
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>>110033054
fansubbers start again
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>>110033027
I can't believe that people that used to live 200 years ago are dead now too.
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>>110029555
lol timing
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>>110032650
>>110032667
>>110032676
>>110032709
> Timing.

Thank you, and thanks to everyone who replied off their comments.

Lame that it's because of timing. That's an easy fix in notepad or any subtitle program if a person wasn't too lazy to figure it out themselves.


>>110032999
>Random commercial fun.

Me too
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>>110030655
>even though it was the exact same as CR script-wise
Except that's not true at all. It was a heavily TLCed and edited version of funi+CR.

See >>105828327 for an early season comparison.
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>>110033057
What would be the point of this.
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>>110033054
DJT turns into HJT.
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>>110033057
>only 4 cores
/g/ please.
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>>110033054
>Google shuts down
>NSA shuts down
>Moon randomly explodes for no fucking reason

What happens then?
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>>110033054

Desperation would create a need for new fan sub groups. Within a month we'd have (albeit kinda shit) fan sub groups working.
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>>110033027
It was obviously coming when CR started picking up steam.

Honestly, I don't care. We all get releases faster than any subgroup could put out in the past, and the quality is average. I wish manga scanlations were half as good.
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>>110033057
Wait wait wait, you have a github for your anime?
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>>110033069
Prove it.
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>>110033101
>Google shuts down

College graduates drop by 99%
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>>110027433
>Not acknowledging subbers as nothing but a resource
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>>110033077
>That's an easy fix
No it isn't.
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>>110033111
>have a github
luser, please. git is distributed, you have a local version. github is just a site you sync with.
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It's amazing, anime being so popular and we pretty much only have one subgroup for most of it these days.
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>>110027433
No one cares if fansubbing dies. CRs video quality is good enough. If you want quality, just wait BD rips.
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>>110033198
>No one cares if fansubbing dies.
That's what CR want you to believe.
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It's honestly really interesting seeing the list of simulcasts growing larger every season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_anime_simulcasts
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>>110033057
>>110033057
F-fug.
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>>110033185
I wonder if CR translators are aware of all this.
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>>110033198

Surely you understand that at least half of /a/ is NEET or borderline NEET. Most of /a/ does NOT pay for any anime.
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This shit would have never happend if germany had won ww2

prove me wrong
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>>110033126
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy
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>>110033198
Who will do BD rips if fagsubbing dies you piece of shit?
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>>110033222
>Linuxfags
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>>110033111
Yeah, very useful since I move a lot.
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>>110032712
Take Kill la Kill or JoJo for example. Especially KlK without typesetting is horrible.
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>>110033227
HSL owns Cunchyroll.
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People gave 4k to a guy who spent that money on chink girlfriends, GoT and parties. Nice job.
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>>110033240
just use the CR subs and enjoy your misstimed subs you fucking peasant.
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>>110033222
RIP in piece ;_;
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If you were watching your anime dubbed like me this wouldn't be a problem.
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RIP in pieces ;_;7
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>>110033077
Time an episode correctly (hell, use the post-processor), then go watch a HS and CR release. You'll never be able to unsee all the scene bleeds and lack of lead-in.

http://whynotsubs.com/A-guide-to-timing-in-Aegisubv2.pdf
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>>110033298
Maybe if fandubbers would step up to the plate and finish their epic kill la kill voice overs I would.
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>>110033057
>LQ anime...
...is wonky.
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>>110033298
>If I cut my cock off I won't have to deal with boners!
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>>110033279
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>>110033229
Because HorribleSubs does not exist, right?

The only real issue, to me, is the video quality.
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>>110033371
HS isn't that bad if you use player deband.
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>>110033229
And you're the vocal minority. In fact, the age of CR is good since we can get good subs within hours after it airs in Japan. People here on /a/ are just attached to popular names like Commie, UTW, Underwater, etc. that they're mad when they disband.

Fansubbing is dying because
>m-muh epeen
>m-muh downloads
>m-muh wasted effort

No one is stopping fagsub groups to release CR edits, nor can CR stop them.

>>110033240
BD rips won't die since there's demand for them unlike fansubs.
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We still have Diaz, fuck UTW.
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>>110033220

The problem is that a majority, as in over 1/2 is attributed to CR and over 1/4 of them are exclusive to it. It's still not would be considered a standard to most anime steaming sites that are legal.
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>>110033360
Put it this way. Microsoft Windows is the most widely used distro in the world, at around 87% of desktop users worldwide. Do you know what the second most popular distro is? Pirated Windows.

It's not too out there to say CR likes having HS out there for similar reasons.
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>>110033406
>there's demand outside of the fansub scene for a BDrip of your favorite LN adaptation #569

Some BDs aren't even uploaded at all.
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>>110033415
Fuck Diaz

>>110033405
The only problem with HS is with Funi rips. Even player deband will not remove the eyecancer. I wonder what kind of magic Funi is using to make their encodes shit.
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>>110027433
>>110027694
>>110028035
http://i.imgur.com/DyV2WuN.png
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>>110033450
>The only problem with HS is with Funi rips
Same here, that's pretty much what makes me decide whether I'm waiting for fansubs or not.
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>>110033335
>http://whynotsubs.com/A-guide-to-timing-in-Aegisubv2.pdf

I haven't seen this before, thanks.
I timed for j-drama earlier in the year so I at least know how to operate Aegisub for SRT's limited-quality subs but tips & tricks I do not know.
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>>110033450
That's just setting your player for 0-255 instead of 16-240
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>>110033449
>Muh generic hipster Chinese Cartoon is not getting a BDrip
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>>110033415
But Daiz owns Under The Water.
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>>110033460
>linking images on an imageboard
You're doing this on purpose aren't you?
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Fukushima is going to go critical soon anyways so we'll have less chinese cartoons to sub.
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>>110033406
>In fact, the age of CR is good since we can get good subs within hours after it airs in Japan.
This is one thing I certainly can't complain about nowadays. It's funny how people complain about having to wait more than half a day for fansubs. Not even a decade ago it'd be a day or so for raws alone, let alone fansubs and before that? Fuck going to the local Games Workshop to pick up VHS yellowsubs of that show you didn't really want to watch but had to because there was no real choice.

Anybody who watches anime in the current age is spoiled in that respect.
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Unlimited translations they said
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>>110028331
Doki
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>>110033511
Yes, let the retarded Western scene groups decide what is worth a BDrip or not.
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CR only has animes I don't care about.
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>>110033449
Only those that Japanese (or rather Chinese) pirates don't bother to buy and rip. Fansubbers almost never buy their own BDs.
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>>110033488
I will still choose a quick fansub over HS because Anonymous said it's good, unless it is a love live situation where they all look awful.
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>>110028331
FFF subs RW and Jinsei without CR.
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>>110033597
>I only watch Sidonia
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>>110033622
>Jinsei
Subs very soon.
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>>110033622
>FFF subs Jinsei
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>>110027433
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
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>>110033599
No shit. If you don't want to use chink BDrips from U2 or dmhy, there needs to be someone else to actually care to encode a BDrip of whatever anime you want to watch.
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>>110033630

Okay, I should have been more specific. It doesn't have older anime I might want to watch, like NGE.
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>>110033552
Anyone who watches cartoons is spoiled anyway and probably doesn't have a job.
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>>110033656
They'll release it.
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>god robes
never forget
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>>110033663
Well, and I'm saying that whether funsubbing dies or not doesn't matter for BD releases since funsubbers never really bought BDs to begin with.
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>>110033690
RIP UnderTheWater
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Fansub groups are still needed for OVAs and movies, CR won't routinely be getting shit that's supposed to be premium and really fucking expensive disc-only content on their site.
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>>110033705
B-But my donations...
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>>110033676
But somebody who gets to go abroad every weekend for toy shopping is more spoiled than somebody who gets new toys each weekend.
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>>110033729
I wonder if when the otakus stop buying BDs, will crunchyroll and funimation start paying for anime directly and turning it into a mass appeal foreign export product.
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>>110033729
>OVAs and movies
Holy shit, it's truly over.
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>>110033676
I wish we actually had some statistics on this because I'd like to believe that most of us aren't actually NEETs or hikikomoris. I know at least 15 people from /a/ that I regularly talk to via email or Skype and none of them fit the generalization, me included.

The rest of you are the same... r-right...? You guys have jobs or go to Universtity... r-right...?
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let's face it, in a couple of years most anime would probably be cr simucast anyway. No one can stop the anime subbing take over. The real question is whether or not /a/'s autism would be enough to create, or push for an actual fansub
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>>110033758
Fuck off normalshit.
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>>110033758
Fuck you tripfag.
>>>/soc/
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>>110033755

They wouldn't have the capital. You'd get new stuff about as often as a Robotech movie comes out, and it will look just as good. Anime only works the way it does because otaku buy expensive discs.
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>>110033705
You seemed to miss my point. Yes, they don't buy BDs, but they're also usually the ones encoding the BDs for BD releases. If fansubbing dies, who's going to care to encode BDs?

I really don't want to be dependent on Bloatgirls and Final8 for all of my BDs and have them stall them for months on end.
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>>110033758
>muh college

Liberal detected.
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>>110033758
>>The rest of you are the same... r-right...? You guys have jobs or go to Universtity... r-right...?
No, fuck off.
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>>110033765
Nah, considering that there are some people in this board who believe honorifics should not be included, I don't want any of it.
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>>110033765
An /a/ fansubbing group will never happen exactly because /a/ is too autistic to agree on anything.
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>>110033758
Nobody gives a fuck. It's irrelevant to the board.
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>>110033819

You'd never have it work through /a/, you'd basically have to go to an IRC channel to actually collaborate. You only recruit from /a/.
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>>110033819
There's a shitload of fansubbers that post on /a/. They've just lurked long enough not to want to plug their groups.
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>>110033794
If it's really your favorite LN adaptation, the size shouldn't matter to you. Just download BDMVs the week after release in Japan.
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>>110033819
Lots of fansubbers post here regularly. A lot of scanlators routinely post here too.
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>>110033791
The BDs only cost 100-300 at a time anyway. They're larger spurts than any other medium but still small spurts. I could see a big corporate entity paying for anime at the same price it costs more, and trying to sell it to normalfags and college kids who are bored of reality TV and Game of Thrones 3: Break Bad Harder all the time.
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I miss retarded fansub wars

>Doki
>UTW
>Mazui
>Commie
>gg
>Hadena
>FFF
>Underwater
>Evetaku
>Whynot
>sage
>GotWoot
>Chihiro
>Doremi
>SubDesu
>rori

What is left?
Pretty much nothing thanks to CR and Funi.
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>>110033779
>>110033786
>>110033799
>>110033804
It's not my fault I can have a life, keep up with every anime season, read manga, read LNs, and help scanlate all at the same time.

How the heck do you people sustain yourselves?

>>110033838
It's relevant in the sense that it's statistical knowledge on what type of people browse said board.
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>>110033844
>>110033878
That's not what I was saying.
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>>110033890
Asenshi
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>>110033892
We don't care, fuck you.
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>>110033819
>>110033810
I didn't necessary meant an "f/a/nsub", but rather if there is enough autistic demand, there might be a possibility that it will lead to creating more subgroup
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>>110033791
>100 million investment by mr jew
>200k+ subs per month

>no capital
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>>110033892
You sure are better than us! Is that what you wanted to hear?
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>>110033890
Vivid
Kaylith
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>>110033890
Anime-Koi
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just use the filter function
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>>110033892
>showing off a MAL
>brand spanking new tripfag
>normalfag
Fuck off.
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>>110033663
Reinforce does some encodes, although they're bloated. Looks identical to the BDMV though.
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>>110033758
The kinds of utter retards that actually want to talk to tripfags or make friends on an anonymous imageboard are a massive misrepresentation of the userbase.

To put it simply, morons like you and the people you know are disgusting casuals who wandered onto this site by mistake.
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>>110033938
If I wanted to be praised for being better than you I would have said so in the first place. I'm genuinely interested and if I posted anonymously in the first place you people wouldn't be raising the same amount of hell as you are right now. I don't see myself as being better or worse than anyone, isn't it normal to want to know about the people you spend every day with, especially people who enjoy the same things you do? I see /a/ as my home.
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>>110033892
>MAL
You're not helping your case.
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>>110033927
That's exactly what I was talking about. Replacing the niche hobby business model with a mass appeal one to jap normalfags and american hipsters. It would kill /a/, but if BD sales ever decline the anime industry wouldn't have a choice.
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>>110033925
No shit sherlock. I've always been wondering how subgroups came to be, I really can't thank you enough for clearing that up for me.
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>>110033993
Fuck off, your tripcode has no function besides being an attention whore.
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>>110033884

I dunno, anime costs like $1.5m a season, and it's financed by publishers or other companies with a ton of capital and other assets. FUNi's dabbled in some co-pro shit, and I just hope it never happens often because it always turns out to be try-hard appeal to Americans garbage. Anime's fascinating because it happens organically from a Jap way of thinking.
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I watched Binchou-tan the other day. Easily DEEN's best anime.
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>>110033993
The concept of anonymity is that you shouldn't know or care about who are the people you're talking to, you retard. Fuck off to MAL or reddit if you want to see their profiles.
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What's wrong with being a NEET?
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>>110029938
Commie holds Futsuu who is decent enough, too bad he won't release Baldr Sky.
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>>110034042

neets are society's waste products, anon
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>>110034042
Lots of things, but don't worry. We still accept you. But, you're a lazy fuck.
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>>110033892
Honestly, your MAL means jack shit. I know a guy who has completed ~650 on his list. He thinks that Naruto is a 10/10 GOAT, watches fujo pandering shows thinking they're 'alpha' and said something along the lines of "new anime is filled with faggy romance and singing idols, announcing old animes like this and Yamato 2199 makes me think that things are going back to the golden age." with regards to the new Macross announcement earlier this year. He's never watched Macross.

>It's relevant in the sense that it's statistical knowledge on what type of people browse said board.
It's not anime or manga, so no, it's not relevant. I could post about my real life, but I don't. Want to know why? Because it has absolutely nothing to do with anime or manga, is shitposting and who honestly gives a fuck what somebody else on the Internet does with their time outside of common interest? Want to talk about your real life? We have boards for that, like >>>/soc/
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>>110033892
>>110033993

You make it really easy for people to hate you.

I don't hate you... yet.
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>>110033676
>He doesn't have a job to buy figurines
Kill yourself already
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>>110033927
>100 million investment by mr jew
What? Explain.
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>>110034004

I'd rather just see the ship of anime sink entirely than see it turn into what FUNi thinks it should be.
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>>110034042

You are a horrible burden to your family and society, that's what.

>inb4 I don't owe anything to anyone

We get it. You'll never become a better person.
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>>110034042
Literal parasites
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>>110033993
Tell you what m8. Take off the trip, stop blogging, and everyone will stop telling you to fuck off.
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>>110034081
>working for figurines
>not leeching off your parents or your government
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>>110034080

don't encourage the tripfag, shithead
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>>110034101
To be fair. I liked Space Dandy. But I agree that the niche market dying would kill anime as something interesting, I was framing that as a bad thing but wondering how possible it was.
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>>110034001
My case is irrelevant, the point still stands.

>>110033987
>casual
How much anime have you watched then? How many manga have you read? How many LN have you read?

>>110033976
I'm not that new, I've been browsing 4chan since 2007.

>>110034025
My tripcode's function is there for you to be able to filter me, the fact that you people aren't doing it are illogical.

>>110034037
Funny how that way of thinking goes out the window when Summer comes along and people are called Summerfags despite not knowing if they really are or not.

>>110034080
It happens. It's mutually beneficial when people hate me because that means they filter me and don't see any more of my posts and likewise they won't respond to my posts anymore. Win-win situation in my opinion.

For the sake of conversation, I'll stop derailing the thread though since I already made my point.

>>110034124
Don't care if people tell me togo away if it means the people who don't want to see what I have to say or care about my opinion filters me.
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>>110034028
>Crunchyroll replaces Aniplex in 10 years
You'd best believe it pal.
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>>110034127
This.

>funding the machine through taxes and labour
>not draining the machine and still getting the shit you want
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A bit off topic but Video games are having the same problems, now before you start spouting off about /v/ I'm talking about Atlus which doesn't provide dual audio and NISA who does worse localizations than Commie. It's not as accessible as fansubbed anime as PS3 / 3DS emulation has a long while to go, you have to jump through hoops to get CFW working.

I just hate how options are often limited to Commie, HS or some stupid HEUHEUHEU tier subs. FFF is not that bad if they didn't take for ever. Then there is the issue of BDs, THORA isn't around as much anymore and CoalGirls isn't either, most people just mux them with shitty commie encodes.
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>>110034004
The industry generates nearly 14b USD in sales per year. 100M venture capital is nothing. Neither is 200k * $8/month.
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>>110034101
>>110034141
Pretty much. Mainstreaming would be the worst thing that could happen to anime. Everything that makes it somewhat different wouldn't exist any more because it'd have to have mass appeal.
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>>110034156
Fuck off. You are worthless.
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>support Crunchyroll if you want to support japanese animators and studios

More like support fat american jews and make them live a comfy life.
Those license peanuts are worth nothing.
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>>110034156
>For the sake of conversation, I'll stop derailing the thread though since I already made my point.
>post didn't end here
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>>110034141

Dandy's fine because it's doing its own irreverent thing, I just hate the cult surrounding Watanabe as "Muh Cowboy Bebop creator" that led up to the show.
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>>110034156
>>For the sake of conversation, I'll stop derailing the thread though since I already made my point.
He says, while replying to 7 different people in the hopes that they'll all respond again.

STOP FUCKING REPLYING, YOU MORONS.
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>>110034077
You didn't say that he likes Naruto and watches fujoshit last time. Are you lying to us, anon?
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>>110034156
By your logic everyone should adopt tripcodes.
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>>110034156
You're trying to derail a thread about the discussion of the current state of fansubbing and potential future into a thread about personal accomplishments.
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>>110034205
>tell people to stop replying
>reply
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>>110034176
>2005 the absolute peak
Haruhi confirmed to have killed anime
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>>110034208
I just never revealed those details, since the Macross thing is usually the best way to show how retarded people can be.

/a/ is pretty small, eh?
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>>110034156
A good tripfag.
Gives me entertainment.
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>>110034181

Yeah, even stuff was innocuous and sweet as Ah! My Goddess would have never surfaced in western comics. I cherish anime and manga because they allow the creators to just do whatever they want with so little constraint and overseeing.
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>>110034175
>FFF is not that bad
Good one.
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>>110034192
I honestly don't give a shit about Watanabe I just liked the show, cozy as fuck.

>>110034181
I would have no interest in anime if it became kosher or sterilized. I like it cause it has fantasy settings, magic, dragons, space ships, lots of cute girls and sexual fanservice, basically being ruthlessly nerdy and not apologizing for it. My tastes apparently overlap with otakus 90%, so I hope they never stop buying anime and keep making weird shit.
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Humans confuse me. People have the ability to filter and hide posts yet instead of doing so they throw fuel into the fire.
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>>110034256
He's probably some TLer just bored and trying to shitpost/get banned.
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>>110034287
People like to get angry.
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>Nise BD will never be finished.
R-Raze at least go out with a bang and finish it please ;_;
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>>110034287
If you ignore the problem, it gets worse. Look at the generals it created on /a/. The shithead should fuck off just by mentioning his personal life.
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daiz please don't ever go
there'll be no one left in fansubbing
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>>110034287
It's entertaining.
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More like limited translations.
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>>110034287
>let pests stay in your house! just ignore them and they'll go away!
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>>110028766
FFF might not have a problem with memesubs yet, but they are on equal footing with Commie as far as sporadically putting shows on indefinite hold is concerned.
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>New tripfag posts in a thread
>furious buttrage and anger, thread completely derailed

>Lelouch posts in a thread
>1-2 "fuck off"/"shit taste" comments at best

Someone doing something right.
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>>110034260
>I cherish anime and manga because they allow the creators to just do whatever they want with so little constraint and overseeing.
Unfortunately Japan, the birthplace of our beloved medium is trying to censor it with laws that ban that sort of freedom. Can you imagine if anime originated in somewhere like America? We definitely wouldn't have nearly as much high quality series.
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>>110034275

>lots of cute girls and sexual fanservice

I had that nutbladder tightening feeling whenever I saw anime in magazines when I was a kid. It immediately felt so different, even some as simple as a thumbnail advertising the Slayers OVA. I dislike when people say they're only into anime for the plots, I got into anime for all of the superficial reasons that felt so right, stories came later.
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>>110030126
Vale was a monstrous faggot.
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>>110034332
I'm surprised it took this long to make this joke.
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>>110034374
I'm into it for the stories, but mainly the nerdy half, I don't give a shit about japanese culture or muh cherry blossoms.
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>>110033890
Anime-Koi and Vivid. They do a lot of work and are quite enjoyable. For some reason they are way below the radar as no one actually talks about them.
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>>110034414
That's because Vivid is basically Commie.
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>>110034318
Fuck off with your shit taste Lelouch.
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>>110034359
Lelouch is a tasteless faggot not worth my time.
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>>110034356
>FFF might not have a problem with memesubs yet
They're already on par with overlocalizing. Memeshit is just one step away.
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>>110034433
Commie pls.
http://unanimated.xtreemhost.com/commie-vs-vivid.htm
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>>110034446
So you only hate on tripfags that have taste?
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>>110034007
Your welcome,
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>>110034473
yes, like Daiz
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at least commie won't die
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>>110034473
I hate blogging tripfags who post off topic nonsense.
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>>110030198
Looks like he's still active with WhyNot helping out with songs.

>>110034390
No he wasn't.
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>UTW is dead
So can Doki finally become relevant?
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>>110034493
I don't really like commie at all. Sure, they do a lot each season (though I haven't seen them around a lot lately) but they try way too hard with their meme speak and such.
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>>110034518
You obviously didn't watch Symphogear then.
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>>110034552
>but they try way too hard with their meme speak and such.
They'll probably tone down eventually.

It can't get much worse than when they tried to watermark their releases, right?
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>>110034520
With Daiz killing TT, Doki will become even more irrelevant. All part of his final solution to anime fansubbing.
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>>110034559
I don't watch garbage.
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>>110034586
Calm down, tough guy. Your boyfriend translated it, don't insult his work if you are going to mindlessly stand up for him.
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>>110028726
I usually like underwater, but I just have to say
Exterminatus was fucking awful and should have been fixed for the batch, but wasn't. Daiz is an unfunny faggot that is probably getting tired of subbing.
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>>110034559
Of course you're from that fanbase.
I did. It was delayed. So what. He's done so much that delaying one show really doesn't matter.
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>>110034655
>Exterminatus
I cringed when I saw that.
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>>110034648
Implying I'm >>110034586
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>>110034655
At least they did the translation at all. Did any other groups even pick it up? At least Atelier had three groups subbing it, even if the other two weren't good.
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>>110034665
>Sucking fansub cock
Guess what else doesn't matter?
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>>110030705
Pretty much this. His excuse essentially became "I'm too normalfag now".
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>>110034218
So how come /a/ doesn't remove tripcodes and adopt unique IDs like /b/? It would get rid of shitposts, samefags, and tripfags one fell swoop.
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>>110034720
What you think? No one gives a shit.
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>>110034771
>Bawww stop picking on my favorite fansub guy!
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>>110034765
It would no longer be anonymous. /a/ is (sadly, I wish more boards cared) the last board that gives a shit about being anon.
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>>110034765
Nobody cares enough. This isn't like the days of old either, most current tripfags are relatively toned down and easily ignored compared to the shitposting fiestas of old.
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>>110034716
One did, but then their TL went off for a month and they stopped at 4th episode or so.
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>>110034771

I dunno about that, you keep replying m8.
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>>110034798
You would still be anonymous, the only change would be that everyone would be accountable rather than blatantly throwing shit around willy nilly.
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>>110034789
>>110034823
>being this delusional
You must've forgotten to wear your tinfoil today.
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>>110027433
>http://utw.me/2014/07/08/summer-2014-and-beyond
>shit art online
Nothing of value was lost
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>>110034586
>>110034648
>>110034692
Huuuuh?

This conversation is hard to follow. Why do people jump in and say "I'm not (person you were responding to)?". It's the most annoying thing I see on 4chan. If he wasn't responding to you don't post.
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>>110034552
>>110034567
I don't get why Commie still exists and is so huge if everyone hates them. They are like a corprorate entity or something, cause I have liked a lot of their releases and obviously they must have a lot of good people with them, but I don't get why they do stuff like the meme shit when all it does is make the people they are shouting out to hate them.
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>>110034972
A few people on /a/ shitting on them does not equate to the entire internet of anime fans.
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>>110034972
Commie is crunchyshit subs on daiz encode
You might as well just watch horriblesubs
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>>110034996
>A few
I wouldn't call that a few.
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>>110035020
Be it a few, or several thousand anons, it still does not amount to mal users, leddit, users, tumblr users, bbt users, and the many other anime communities on the internet. What I'm getting at is that /a/ hating commie does not mean that everyone else does.
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>>110034996
Pretty sure MAL hates them too.
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>>110034445
How is Nise shit taste? I thought loads of people from /a/ was waiting for them.

I don't see why people should care what they spend there money on, They're donating to them at there own risk plus UTW has been the best group for the past like 3 years.
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>>110035072
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>>110034765
>Why doesn't /a/ become more like /b/?

I don't get why people want to remove useful site features just because they're misused. Don't get me wrong, I hate most of the "justified" tripfags like Daiz, but that's my right. I don't think moot should rip trips out of the site and turn the other boards into a sterile /b/ clone. Trip hate should solely be something cultural, and when they blog about their personal life they should get banned then too, but don't fix what's not broken.
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>>110035072
>still does not amount to mal users
I don't argue with that, but calling it "a few" is quite an understatement.
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>>110035144
Funny how hating commie became a meme
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>>110035144
What point are you trying to make
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>>110035149
/b/ is bad not because of that.
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>>110028959
Is that still not fucking done? I'm almost enjoying my anger.
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>>110035187
But it makes it worse. Forced ID makes boards sterile and boring.
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>>110035208
Boring because it's harder to samefag and troll?
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>>110033111
> github
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>>110033756
>movie
Madoka, patema inverted, anohana and wind rises subs all came out on the same day as the BD.
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People complaining over tripfags are whiny bitches when they have 500 ways to filter/combat them yet they still complaining about "tripfags" ruining the board.

The people who usually derail a thread are the anons pointing out what this trip did/said and it escalates from that instead of ignoring it.
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>>110035149
I will apologize for blogging but in my defense, I was overcome with curiosity though I know it was unnecessary so I'm sorry for that.

>>110028959
>>110035189
I'm still waiting as well... I asked Daiz around the time he came back from his hiatus and he said it's being worked on but stalled somewhere. Unfortunate.
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>>110035235
If I make an embarrassing post half way up a thread, I don't want my options to be get a new IP or wait til the next thread. I expect anonymous to mean anonymous, not "anonymous, but wait til the next general".
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>>110035307
Your insecurities astound me. People aren't so illogical that they would judge the quality of all your posts based on one mistake.
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>>110035270
I'm a Lelouch otaku. Did you know your main boards besides /a/ are /vg/ and /sp/? Another surprising fact, the first time you ever got told to fuck off for being a tripfag was your second post on /a/.
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>>110035343
Yes, they would.
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>>110035384
I only use /a/, Haven't been to /sp/ in ages and only lurk /vg/, I don't really care for people teling me to fuck off like its going to make stop coming here. I'd rather you ignore my post then post some off topic comment because you dislike myself or my comment.

/a/ has been scapegoating tripfags for /a/ being "shit" for too long.
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>>110035343
The whole point of being anonymous is if you shitpost or make a dumb post, it doesn't have to stay hanging over your head forever. Have you ever listened to moot's interviews/speeches? Its one of the reasons he gives for the advantages of anonymous posting.

That definitely applies to single threads too if you make all the posts connected by an ID. I don't want a personality to show at all unless I choose to. If it's not broke, don't fix it.
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HS/CR are fine. It actually feels more legit to watch releases from them since they're "official".

As for anime that won't be subbed by CR, I'm sure there are always gonna be another fansubbers who's gonna work on them.
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>>110035475
Why do you use a trip?
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>>110035270
>>110035475
When you're not shitposting Nisekoi threads, you can actually make some valid points.
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>>110035513
For the attention, obviously.
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>>110035513
If I moot removed trips will he die?
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>>110035590
It would be extremely painful.
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>>110035547
Tripfags are just attention whores? There's no other reason?
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>>110035513

Why don't you just fucking block tripfags? It's not that hard. Sometimes I think people who give attention to tripfags are the real shitposters who wants to derail threads.

I don't block them but I don't pay attention to their trip. I pay attention on the content of their post.
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>>110035610
There are genuine uses for tripcodes, such as when translating something in a thread. Otherwise, they're just for attentionwhoring.
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>>110035590
He wouldn't die even when killed.
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>>110035622
Calm down faggot. I only asked a question.
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>>110035610
All of them are by definition attention whores, but so am I, I post a lot and get happy when anons like my epic posts, I just stay anonymous because I don't want all my posts trackable to some kind of identity that I might one day be embarrassed by
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>>110035513
I don't even know myself, I picked it up 4 years ago and its stuck with me, It's a hard habit to knock, I don't really see what would change if I took my trip off though. I think my posts and images would still be noticeable.

>>110035543
I don't shit post in Nisekoi threads at all, Nisekoi threads were ALWAYS going to be about best girl wars, If you didn't expect that then I don't know what to say to you.

>>110035622
I've said this a million times, Anons who react are the worst, You could get a new tripfag who starts spouting SnK is the best show ever and /a/ would be all over him like a rash.
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>>110035610
It's honestly just what /a/ wants you to believe. If I told you I don't care if I receive replies or not, would you believe me? Probably not, right? The only reason I don a trip is to honor my waifu and let people filter me if they dislike my opinions or posts. Just believe whatever you want to believe and do whatever you want to do.
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