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HOLY CRAP IT WAS ALL A LIE

I always thought the 5 cm/s is a reference to the speed at which cherry blossoms fall to earth.

Today I was curious what the average speed of a human at it's life is. Didn't even think of the anime at this time.

Found out the average distance a human travels in a life is 120.000 km. While the average time to travel this distance is 76 years (average age - baby time - unable to move time)

Guess what

12.000.000.000 cm / (76*365,25*24*60*60)s = 5.0033 cm/s

Now his whole "at what speed must I live to be able to see her again?" stuff starts to make sense

Also 5 cm/s general
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neat
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>>109392766
The symbolism in that movie was amazing.
I love how, in the first episode, both Tohno and Akari is symbolized as birds, you can see them flying alone, and when Tohno meet Akari, two birds fly together.
Second episode, Kaere was the paper plane she threw, and Tohno was the spaceship. I love how, the second Kaere lets go of Tohno, he "leaves the earth" as in, he lost his final chance to find happiness/love.
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>>109392766
>25*24*60*60

Why the 25?
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>>109392960
365,25 for an additional day every fourth year
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>>109392960
365,25 = 365.25
Commas are used as decimals in some areas.
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>>109392994
ah, i thought he was separating the two operations for clarity or something
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>>109392960
>>109392989
>>109392994
Yes sorry for my European system
I fucked up the comma at the result btw
Blame me
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This film was enjoyable. The animation was great, but the story was pretty forgettable.
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>>109393266
>forgettable
What do you mean by that?
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>>109392766
holy fuck. Didn't even cross my mind to think there.

That's really cool. I wonder if it's intentional.
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>>109392766
Holy shit!
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>>109393266
> animation was great

You mean the art direction.
The animation was average.
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>>109393031

don't apologize for using the superior decimal point format
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>>109393460
He means that he doesn't remember the story
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>>109393266
The animation was mediocre.
The story is what you remember. I don't know your criterias, but they're all wrong.
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I cried during the ED. Shit hits me hard.
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>>109394014
THE MOTHERFUCKING TRAIN ;__;
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>>109392912
Shinkai has a massive boner for bird symbols and trains as iconic of isolation. They show up in a similar capacity in basically every film he's done. He has a weirdly melancholy association with trains and I really like how he uses them as awkward little torture chambers for some of his characters. It's the inertness of just sitting and watching the world literally pass you by, surrounded by people but none of who you know that makes it a great little amplifier of all the themes of social anxiety and tension he plays with.
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>>109394073
Thanks for reminding me.
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>>109392766
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>>109394014
>>109394073
>>109394228

It wasn't a bad ending though.
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pretty sure it's just the speed at which cherry blossoms fall lol
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>>109394073
>>109394228
>that song
That hit me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqFftJDXii0

Itsu demo sagashite iru yo! ;_;
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>>109392766
120.000 km according to whom? I'd bet there's a bunch of numbers floating around for that average, and they'll all be based on major guesswork.

It's sort of a neat idea, but it seems really shaky to me.
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>>109394415
No one said that. But damn that last part
;_;
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>>109394706
Yes it's of course not very exact
There are people like us sitting around all day
There are cab drivers etc etc

But I found these 120k similar in different sources so there isn't a better number to take
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>>109394415
It doesn't have to be a bad end to have an emotional impact.
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>>109394773
Which sources? And how did they come up with the number? I just did a google search and couldn't find the 120.000 number.
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Requesting the letter
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>>109394709
I meant it as a "sad" ending, not a badly executed ending. Even though it's really emotional, it's a "not sad" ending. It's not really happy either.
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>>109394831
Some weird forums and question sites
Mostly they said it's between 4-5 km per day

I know this isn't exact but whole shit look at my calculation in the OP. This just can't be unintentionally.
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>>109394979
*holy
can't even swear properly anymore
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>>109392766
>365,25
It should be 365.24 instead. Three years out of 400 that should be leap years aren't leap years.

Answer's closer to 5.0035.

Also:
>uses , for 365,25
>uses . for 5.0033
Consistency please.
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>>109392766
Neat now I have a pic I can just shove into someones face when its brought up.
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>>109394892
Delivered.
also, fucking captcha
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I thought the plots were so lackluster they failed to deliver a strong emotional message
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>>109394979
But the calculation is reliant on that specific estimate. The question is whether Shinkai would have come up with it himself. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's very speculative and circumstantial.
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>>109395134
>Consistency please.
>>109393031
>I fucked up the comma at the result btw
>Blame me
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>>109395238
Fine, I missed that.

Still, my other point stands.
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>>109395217
When the fuck did they show this?
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Kanae was best girl
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>>109395294
Yes blame me
I'm a watchmaker btw and know how that shit works
I should have known better, but I didn't, you are right

Tomorrow is my exam, wish me luck ;_;
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The ending hit me like a fucking train.
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>>109395234
>>109392766

Furthermore, according to Wikipedia the speed referring to Cherry Blossoms comes directly from the director's notes, although the source isn't working for me.

Is it possible that there was some hidden meaning behind it? Sure, but like I said, it's circumstantial, and it's obvious that the cherry blossoms were part of the symbolism regardless.
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>>109395422
Dat symbolism with the train scene

>They both met at a certain point in life
>Got seperated by something (the train)
>He kept on waiting for her
>Only to realize she had moved on
>That's when he decided he would too

10/10 Ending, would watch again

Kotonoha No Niwa was better though
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>>109395590
>spoiler
my nigga
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>>109395590
FUCKING SPOILER DUDE
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>>109395385
Good luck anon.
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>watch this movie back in 2008
>had gone through something similar
>train scene
>obviously they just gonna wait for each other and talk and what not
>my literal face when she was gone
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>>109394958
Just a tip anon - there is a word for what you describe. "Bittersweet".
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>>109395699
>missing the point of the scene
see >>109395590
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>>109395590
what if it's just his illusion of her being fucking everywhere? ;__;
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>>109395590
>Kotonoha No Niwa
I liked it.
I love this guy's stuff. They bring me to tears.
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I didn't really find 5cm/s that sad. Though I always find this guys stuff hard to follow for some reason.
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>>109395217
Did you really have to post that?
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>>109395816
>tfw this won't be a full feature film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvCzn3l2ajw
Fuck everything
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>>109395738
Yeah I was a little slow on noticing things. I took me like four watches to realize that he actually moved on. Still my heart dropped.
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>>109395803
I think the point of the scene is it's left open to the viewer's interpretation.
Personally, I like to think it's not meant to have actually taken place, and it's just a summary of the whole thing, as >>109395590 pointed

He put his life on stand by waiting for her, only to realize she had already moved on.

tldr; The guy wasted his time instead of getting it on with at least two best girls in the mean time
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MIND = BLOWN
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>>109392766
Walk into /a/.
See this.
What do?
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>>109395699
>had gone through something similar

I know that feel anon. It hit very close to home for me too - actually without exaggeration I'd say 5cm/s is the story of my life, with only a few differences.

I think most people who don't get this movie - like >>109395911 and >>109395224
- are the ones who never went through a similar situation.
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>>109396033
Yup the scene made me cry buckets ;_;
The manga also leaves a cliffhanger ending, which is not as good as the anime, but imo it hints a (happy?) ending with Kanae.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne9rOUSdUVE
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>>109395217
Wait, what? Did this happen in the LN?
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MORE LIKE 5CM/PER ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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>>109396145
Didn't read the manga, but I thought Kanae was gone a long time ago and he was going to get serious with glasses girl instead
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I'm pretty sure someone who jogs at least 3km a day would have surpassed that mark in record time.
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>>109395217
sauce mate?
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>>109395941
I want it to be a movie. Fuck this.
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Can we all agree Act 2 was the best part of the movie?
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>>109396210
Do you understand the concept of averages?
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>>109396200
He broke up with glasses girl at the end, being unable to move on, and Kanae came across him by chance when she decided to come to Tokyo and look for him. The manga gives more insights into his relationship with glasses girl and whatnot.
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>>109396112
Make a stupid post, apparently.
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>>109396141
I haven't gone through such a situation, but this movie was fucking great. Garden of Words too.
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today, OP wasn't a faggot
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>>109395590
It wasn't about him waiting for her, it was about the fact that he thought she was still waiting for him. The full arc of the film is the same as the arc of the first episode. He gets on the train telling her he'll be there at a certain time and to wait for him, and when things beyond his control get in the way he's plagued by the thought that he's left her waiting out in the cold and the snow. Fast forward to their adult years and he still thinks she's out there alone and waiting for him. It's not even that there was some deep love, in fact the very fact that it wasn't a "true love" story is what gives it more punch. He was just a normal kid who never got any closure to his first romance and the uncertainty of it ate away at him until he could get over it.
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>>109396243
muh nigga
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More like 5 wallpapers per second
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>>109396262
Fuck yeah, as a Kanae fag and Act 2 being my favourite (>>109396243 I'm with you bro), this pleases me
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>>109396243
surf chick?
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>>109392766

nigga was 0.0033 cm/s too slow to get that pussy goddamn
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I want to forget everything about this movie.
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>>109396243
>That inevitable ending

That cut too deep.
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Ye the story is pretty much my life

>found girl on internet
>had much distance
>first love etc etc
>decide to visit her with train when I was 15
>spend the 3 happiest days of my life with her
>travel back, crying the whole train journey
>she broke up 2 months later
>saw her never again
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5 yawns/second
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>>109396392
what makes you think blogging is acceptable?
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>>109392766
ONE MORE TIME
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>>109395941
his commercial work has been insane, they all feel like trailers to full motion pictures
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>>109392766
>6/26/14: Today, /a/ actually enriched my life
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>>109396444
meant to answer to someone ITT but didn't find his post again
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>>109396444
Let the man vent.

Is part of the discussion of art also not it's relatability with past experiences?
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>>109396478
>>109395941
So will it happen? What's the motive behind creating this 'commercial'?
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>>109395217
Oh shit, this better be canon.
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>>109396541
It's all those letters and thoughts in one.
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>>109396531
the motive is he was paid by the school to make them a commercial. he's done a bunch of projects like that too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSwbnUQJGnA
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>>109396529
of course not

this guy's post: >>109394152
is how you talk about how you feel

you just describe the emotions

you don't blog about how you were on the train to your girlfriend waaaaah sob story no one cares about
when you talk about a music album, you don't talk about how you listened to it when your dog died so you have special "connection" to it or whatever, because no one else has had those experiences so your little anecdote is worthless
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>want to rewatch 5cm/s
>it's not winter
What do
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>>109393722
The story was trite shit, the art itself was good if you consider that kind of detial to be good. The animation was not special in the slightest.
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>>109396646
wait till winter
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>>109394979
If you knew the average for a day, why didn't you just do:
4.5km / (24*60*60)sec and convert the answer to cm?
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>>109395217
Fuck
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>>109396607
Damnit Shinkai
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>>109395217
Can someone make this lewd
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>>109396646
Watch his heartbreaking summer blockbuster!
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>>109396141
I think most people who don't get this movie are not just not as easily affected by entirely transparent hamfisted attempts at emotional manipulation.
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>>109396607
Oh woops sorry wrong link. That one's just a short. He did one for a local newspaper and one for a construction company that was doing (i think) a shopping mall project. I can't fin them on youtube save for in shitty 420p
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>>109396671
That would've been too easy
Also I liked the number 120k more
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>>109396738
it's not even an attempt at emotional manipulation, it's just a straight forward expression of the idea at work int he story. It's not like in some action series where suddenly the plot has to shift gears and suddenly change tool sets to be emotionally evocative, the story is at its core emotional. The fact that you seem to assume there's some cold devious machinations behind it is really more reflective of that fact that you're emotionally inept than anything else. If it's not your thing, it's not your thing. No one's trying to force you to enjoy it. But when you feel the need to go out of your way to rationalize your opinion that no one asked for you're clearly acting out of defensive concern for your own ego rather than anything remotely rational.
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>>109396703
Out.
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>>109396671
>5.2083 cm
Not too far off I guess.
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>>109395941
My life will never be complete
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>>109396926
>our opinion that no one asked for
This is often posted in response to negativity.

Are only positive opinions allowed or expected?
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>>109396926
>acting out of defensive concern for your own ego rather than anything remotely rational.
All this projection. The whole thing was entirely see through great for your if you are the kind of pleb that can be drawn in by such vaccuous storytelling and made to feel something but others need something more skillyfully written than this in order to feel a connection to the characters.
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I'm going to college in a few weeks and my girlfriend is going to stay behind at high school since I'm older, so naturally I'm going to watch this right before that happens.

[spoiler[>inb4 personal blog

This is a feels thread and you know it. ;,(
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>>109397025
>NTR waiting to happen.
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>>109396162
NOOOO MAKE IT STOP PLEASE
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>>109397025
>Let me tell you about my life
>feels
> ;(
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Why are all of Shinkai's movies so comfy?
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>>109397025
I'm so sorry.
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>>109397180
He is a one trick pony, a hack.
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>>109396718
I guess I could do that.

kotonoha no niwa is spring, we just need an autumn one now.
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>>109397204
Still achieved more than you ever will, anon.
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>>109397294
BAZINGO!
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As much as I love the movie I prefer the manga. The art is as beautiful as the movie, and it has more to show. Reading it while listening to the OST was a great experience and I feel everyone who liked the movie should do as such.
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>>109397294
>You can't criticize anyone who's at least had their name in a newspaper
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>>109397396
Couldn't even finish the manga. The story itself pretty lackluster, what makes it so good is how it's told through the movie. You don't get that with the manga.
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>>109397459
>>109397396
I like the manga, but of course would have preferred to watch the anime first
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i hate shitty endings like this

doesn't leave me thinking or happy or anything

just mad
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>>109397513
Obviously I'm going to say watch the movie first.
The manga is used to expand on the movie, not to replace it.
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>>109397022
Thanks for proving my point. If you hadn't replied there'd at least have been the chance of a 50/50 split on anyone reading this conversation thinking either one of us was an idiot, but you resorting to an empty hissyfit of name calling pretty much forfeits that handicap.
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>>109397396


The little light novel is also a pretty good read.
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>>109397583
It's not a shitty ending. It's just not a super duper happy ending.
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So which is his best, I just re-watched Voices of a Distant Star, I honestly wish it were longer, the premise is easily the most tear jerking especially when he gives up waiting and then gets a mail form her. Will they ever meet again or just continue to drift further apart, at least she didn't die in space and him not find out until 8 years later that would have killed me.
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>>109397602
There is no empty hissyfit. I was commenting on the story and how shallow it is, you look like the idiot here for reacting in a manner so overtly hostile to someone disagreeing with your opinions. As I said its great for you if you can get an emotional attachment to characters in such poorly written vacuous stories but some people require writing of a higher standard.
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I didn't get this movie. I watched it expecting a nice weekend movie and got something 2deep4me.
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>>109392766
Wow. Thanks OP.
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>>109397922
What didn't you get?

It was basically life moving on and letting go of the past.
The kid made a promise to the girl whom he liked.
Shit happens, such is life, but the kid keeps dwelling on not being together.
The second portion focuses on a random character to show that she's interested in him but because he such a stick in the mud and only looks in the distance, he doesn't notice her.
The end is basically him realizing that he's nowhere in his life and it sucks.

The end is a montage of his life up to that point.
The train symbolises his connection to the girl whom he likes.
The train passing is his connection being permanently cut which is why you see her vanish, she was never there.

The LN says that afterwards, he hooks up with the surfergirl and dumps the girl at the office or something (can't really remember but I know they hook up)

Themes about distance and letting go were well done.
It really wasn't hard to understand to be honest and was pretty well done though the pacing sort of kills it and the montage saves it.

Anything else you didn't get?
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>>109398306
Why it was so shit.
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>>109397246
I really need to get around to watching that.
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>>109398348
Pacing sucks.
Though 5cm/sec etc etc.
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>>109392766
damn
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>>109397246
Yakusoku no Basho gave me an autumn vibe
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Fuck you /a/
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10584582/Byousoku%205%20centimeter.pdf
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>>109395941
What the fuck, his cutest character designs yet and this is all there is.
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good job OP
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>>109395816
I really liked "Garden of words" and "5cm*s^-1" but I thought "Voice of a distant star" was pretty bad. The animation in particular seemed really unpolished, though i wonder if my dislike is due more to getting used to Shinkai's stuff.
I still have to watch "The place promised in our early days" but I might actually wait sometime before I do because of this.
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>>109405462

Voices of a distant star was really good, I wish it had been longer, I thought it looked nice but it would have been much better in HD it is from 2002 though, I'm surprised it's not been remastered.
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>>109392766
Voice of A Distant Star was one of his early works, so the animation quality was not good as his recent work.
But it has the similar vibe with his other works.
Also his VA skill was not bad.
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>>109405770
Meant to quote>>109405462
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If i run 35 miles a week will it screw up my average and keep me from finding happiness? This is important.
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http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=1o6sZ8K3Vy0&video_start=3343&audio=D_P-v1BVQn8&audio_start=0

It's amazing the amount of feels that were packed into the final minutes of the film that you fail to appreciate if you only watch it once. In the process of syncing this I noticed the focus that's placed on the mailbox and how it reflects their growing estrangement. Also missed the one-second shot of the delicious tomboy that lusted after MC's cock crying when he left for the big city
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Good job OP, I'm proud of you. Do you think they or the author thought about that while writing it?
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>>109406023
MC spirals down so hard in the end, the part where he looks back at the rail-crossing while the waifu-proxy keeps walking is too fucking real.
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we sit on our asses all day so our speed is probably much slower...
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>>109406023
This. The anime didn't leave much of impressions on my first watch a few years back then.
But then I cried like a nigger bitch after watched it for the second time a couple of months ago
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>>109396926
I'm not saying it was bad, it was just bland for me and some actual (which was fine as it was, minimalistic and all) would've helped me to enjoy it more. I thought it was very similar to an ass long third wave post-rock song, too much build-up for a far too moderate climax.
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>>109406247

not with my mouse it isn't
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>>109406023
>http://www.youdubber.com

http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=N5ERsTs63OM&video_start=112&audio=qFWv3g4y2Pg&audio_start=0
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>>109406854
>tfw you kill the thread
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>>109407498
It's a nice way to end the thread
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