>>109068909 >& 9-10/10 votes I guarantee those were only due to the hype at the time. If you had everyone take that poll again, most would rate the show 7 and under, with 7 being the minority. Very few 8's or 9's. Virtually no 10's.
I think we expected too much from it, to be honest. From this, we ended up overhyping it and telling ourselves that it was going to AOTY, so when it was anything but, it was shit. This doesn't really make up for how they screwed the pooch on the last half, however, but rather puts into context why everyone thought it was so bad.
>>109069049 >I think we expected too much from it That's because the show was actually pretty good in the beginning, and would have been a possible AOTY contender if they kept with the feeling of the first half. So of course people are going to rate it more harshly. Wasted potential is worse than no potential.
Virtues: - Excellent soundtrack - Multiple characters with agency - Overall good animation - some very well written lines ("ask not the sparrow how the eagle soars" ; "[the sword] fresh from your father's body") - subjectively entertaining with rewatch value - subjectively contains best girl tier girls
Drawbacks: - Overall plot could have been better connected - subjective irritants (Mako in particular) - Fanbase
n.b.: A show does not need to be life changing to be good.
>>109069918 I agree, it was pretty weak for a blockbuster. When I think about this I gave Madoka 7.5/10, Fate/Zero 6/10 and Steins;Gate 7/10, but Kill la Kill was just so much worse. Kill la Kill really doesn't deserve more than 6/10, but it's clearly worse than Fate/Zero.
It was really entertaining and generally likeable in spite of going off the damn rails in the second half. In a world of anime that's actually genuinely terrible the stupid hot blooded action shows that at least have some heart to them are all I can muster a fuck about anymore.
Honestly the stupidest fucking complaint that people have with this show. Do people just not get that it was really just used to show that Aikurou cared about Ryuko? After that there was no opportunity for them to fire it, the bullet served its purpose, it didn't need to actually hit anything to do that.
Should have had grotesque amounts of actual nudity, probably wouldn't rewatch.
I cannot physically wrap my mind around people who've said they've rewatched KLK 4 times. Does that from start to end 4 times, or watched the new episode as it airs four times over the week? The second sounds more plausible since I'd consider it a serious slogfest to try to rewatch an entire 24 episode show so soon, let alone several fucking times, even if it's one I enjoyed.
>>109068581 I enjoyed it, it had some problems but I still liked it and look back on it fondly. I could see how some people would dislike it, though.
I think it suffered because actually bought in to /a/'s hype and expected things that were never going to happen. People always talk about how it was fun to watch with /a/ but a lot of these discussions led to people convincing themselves of certain things and then they blamed Trigger when some of these things didn't happen. I've seen people who have watched it after its airing date and they didn't really have any of those problems some people seem to have with it, which I don't find surprising.
>>109070782 >I've seen people who have watched it after its airing date and they didn't really have any of those problems some people seem to have with it, which I don't find surprising. Maybe those people just have shit taste and don't watch much anime?
>>109070875 No, there are plenty of "problems" I've seen people claim KLK has that are just really fucking stupid and only exist because they bought in to some hype that the discussions on /a/ led them to believe in.
The show most certainly has legitimate problems, "it didn't meet my fanfiction that I made up with /a/" isn't really a legitimate problem, though.
Ryuko doesn't really start doing anything that makes the side characters look bad until Episode 23, and even IN that episode the Deva's get a cool scene.
Tsumugu I can see, but I don't see how people are legitimately angry with the way the Devas were handled, I mean shit are people seriously mad at what happened to Uzu in the final episode? He's a side character that has been used for comedic shots in the past, in the previous episode he gets a really cool scene with the final antagonist.
That was the illusion the Devas gave, but in the end, it barely accomplished anything. Inu and Monkey had potential, being Gama the only one with any lick of relevance (basically just a cool scene) sadly, only thanks to Mako.
Anyway only Ryuko, Satsuki, Aikuro and Tsumugu (until Aikuro went ALIENS and became a joke) are the ones with actual "agency".
>Overall good animation.
Only the entirety of the first cour (ep 4 being the exception for obvious reasons) and possibly the fight in ep.15.
That's one of the problems, the Deva were just shoved to the side in the 2nd cour. Sanageyama had a whole episode to himself in the first part of the show. These characters were being developed in earnest, seeing them just thrown to the side was weird.
The main themes also went full shitzo, while in the first half they kept emphasizing the belif that people and clothing can live together in the second half they just exterminate the Life-Fibers.
>>109068581 I liked that it was a much more personal character driven story than the initial fake premise of monster of the week revenge action anime led it on to believe. The dynamic between Ryuko and Senketsu that forms the heart of the show is super interesting; the way Satsuki contrasts against them, and how she's portrayed as someone in the middle with the actual badguys on the other end rather than a villain who becomes befriended I thought was also done well, which is the other big part of the show. The art direction and sound direction is top notch, the entire cast of Seiyuu are seriously the best. And partially because of that, all the characters are really iconic and memorable to me, even if not all of them are treated fairly.
Which brings me to stuff I didn't like, even considering they're side characters there's a disproportion of the amount of time and development given to most of them, only the mains and a few choice side characters (i.e. Gamagoori) are well done. It's sort of a double edge sword, because a lot of iconic interesting characters are cannibalized for the sake of the story. And while the aforementioned character relationships are super well done, the actual story is rushed and flaccid. For as great as the artstyle is, the action and animation in general is super subpar, and while the core of the show is character driven, it still forces on the appearance of an action show despite all the action being purely nonsensical fluff that becomes terribly animated by the second half. And the ending sucks.
Overall, what I like about Kill La Kill I love, and what I hate about it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it should because of what I love. Subjectively I think it's great, but I can totally see why someone would think it's shit.
>>109071679 So you basically just called it shit, even if you did like it. Everything you enjoyed is contested and cannibalized by something terrible to the point where there are very few aspects of the show that remain consistently good until the end.
>>109071609 >the Deva were just shoved to the side in the 2nd cour.
Uh, they were always there, though. I personally never got the impression that they were important characters like Ryuko, Senketsu, Satsuki and Mako were. To me it just sounds like you would have personally preferred if the series revolved around them and Satsuki instead of Ryuko and Senketsu.
In regards to relevancy characters like Satsuki are pretty much the only ones relevant towards the end game goal until Episode 22, since before that Ryuko is either being manipulated by Satsuki or being saved by her. To me it seems like the people who expected much more out of the other characters besides Ryuko didn't really want Ryuko to do very much in the final stretch at all.
>>109071909 >In regards to relevancy characters like Satsuki are pretty much the only ones relevant towards the end game goal until Episode 22 So you admit that one of the most important character, arguably the 2nd most important, is completely left out of the most important event in the entire show, which she pretty much started?
That's not good. That's a shitty way to manage your characters. Regardless of what happened before.
>>109072061 >But I don't think the bad outweighed the good, so I personally can't call it shit But you did. Your analysis of the show basically concludes that it was shit, even if you enjoyed it. It's okay to think it's shit, anon. There's such a thing as a guilty pleasure.
>>109072020 >literally get whole episodes dedicated to them Juxtaposed with a fight they were having with Ryuko in that particular episode. The scenes you're talking about really don't account for much of anything other than a bit of a background check on them and showing you their reasons for following Satsuki, I think you're exaggerating how important they are because you liked them and obviously have a bit of a distaste for Ryuko.
>>109072222 >I think you're exaggerating how important they are because you liked them and obviously have a bit of a distaste for Ryuko. And I think you're doing the exact opposite because of vice versa.
>>109072068 Satsuki basically sets up the setting that Ryuko is in and Mako is an incredibly important character to the protagonist. The Deva's typically don't serve much use at all, just the odd comedic or "cool" scene.
>>109072020 That's not how it works. Side Characters can get episodes dedicated to them, you have to remember that those episodes directly influence the main characters.
I really like the main characters of Kill La Kill, especially Ryuko, but KLK falls apart if the less you care about her and the others. I don't know if you can call it a failure, but that's probably what it all comes down to. You either like the MC or you don't, and it's do or die for the whole show.
>>109072313 >I really like the main characters of Kill La Kill There's only one. Unless you're talking about the talking shirt? And even then he's her #1 fanboy.
>You either like the MC or you don't, and it's do or die for the whole show. This I can agree with. Too bad Ryuuko's a boring piece of shit for 90% of the show, and an annoying piece of shit for the other 10%.
>>109072313 >You either like the MC or you don't, and it's do or die for the whole show.
Um how about NO. Ryuuko's whole motivation to do anything is being pissed off at something because of REASONS. The rest of the cast at least have proper motivations. Fucking Takarada was a better character then Ryuuko.
>>109071909 >o me it just sounds like you would have personally preferred if the series revolved around them and Satsuki instead of Ryuko and Senketsu.
Not the same guy, but they shouldn't have bothered to give the Devas the attention and detail they got in the first cour in the first place, especially IF the series revolved around Ryuko and Senketsu's relationship.
They should have stayed in the same level as the Beastman of TTGL and focus more on the main characters then.
But, hey, it didn't happen. So I have to agree with that anon, not in that the show should have revolved around them, but to not shove them aside (along with Aikuro and Tsumugu) like they did. And I'm talking about Uzu, Inu and Nonon. Gama barely got some sort of free card due to shipping pandering.
>>109072222 Monkey got better executed character development in his single episode than the MC did in whole show.
Then the second cour throughs it all out the window because only the MC can important now.
Mako gets her own epsode in the first cour, and she actually learns something and develops as a result. In the second cour she is flanderized version of herself and forgets everything she got from the 1st cour
>>109072161 My analysis concludes that it has serious flaws. In my personal opinion, those flaws don't ruin the show. I don't feel guilty liking KLK, I forgive it's failings because I think it succeeded elsewhere.
Those two devas were frequently made to look like the most important ones, though. Getting extended scenes against antagonists and getting flashy scenes like Uzu's scene in Episode 23 and Gamagori's in Episode 24.
Tsumugu was an odd character, though. But I don't think the Devas were really all that mishandled.
>>109072441 >Not the same guy, but they shouldn't have bothered to give the Devas the attention and detail they got in the first cour in the first place, especially IF the series revolved around Ryuko and Senketsu's relationship. Shit, if we're going down that path we should just have the show take place in a vacuum with Ryuuko and Senketsu as the sole characters. Because that's basically what Trigger did in the end.
>>109072460 >I forgive it's failings because I think it succeeded elsewhere. Like? The only good things about KlK are the seiyuus, music, and character designs. That's it. Everything else is unbelievably flawed.
>>109072453 >In the second cour she is flanderized version of herself and forgets everything she got from the 1st cour >there is a whole episode dedicated to greed and corruption in the first cour >the Mankanshoku family is still greedy in the 2nd cour
It's like somebody was actually trying to write a cohesive interesting story and Imaishi kept demanding more dick jokes and flash entrance scenes
I realize it's not very special and it handled several plot-points badly but it was style-over-substance all along and it's hard to overstate how much fun I've had watching it while it aired. The characters are stellar, the animation is obviously re-used and cheap at times but almost always charismatic with an interesting artstyle. I've since rewatched it once and still liked it, especially characters like Mako benefit from not waiting a week for each episode since you won't see her as a "time stealing" nuisance.
>>109072441 >Not the same guy, but they shouldn't have bothered to give the Devas the attention and detail they got in the first cour in the first place
The only ones who really got that much attention were Sanageyama and Gamagori and they were the ones given the most time in the second cour as a result. I mean you talk about Gamagori looking good but Uzu is the one who gets to engage Nui first and he also gets a scene where he surprises the final antagonist 5 episodes later. But it's like people forget that because he was made to look a little silly in the final episode.
>>109072740 Don't forget the now Trigger team formerly Gainax. >Inferno Coppu >Panty Stocking >TTGL >All of that sweet yoshinari animation >>109072778 It's still exceptional and had an original storyboard that simply fell flat in some aspects. Characters were miles above most of the shit we see in Anime nowadays and while the animation IS re-used and cheap, they tried to use the budget in ways so many scenes benefit. Then there's ways of reusing animation such as ep3-ep15 where it seems more like a showcase of progression as well. The animation is weak FPS wise but the general art direction oozes creativity and the backgrounds are beautiful.
>>109072863 >I'd rate KLK 8/10. Where the fuck do you people come from? 8/10 means its a fucking masterpiece, 9/10 and 10/10 is something a TV anime can't even reach and it's reserved for movies and OVA
If you rate KLK 8/10 how the fuck would you rate Jin-Roh, EoE, Millennium Actress and similar. Are the 17/10?
>>109073086 Might be funny, but I don't see how that makes the show better.
I think it's like someone said earlier that the enjoyment of Kill La Kill really depends on how much you like Ryuko. If you like Ryuko you'll like the show, if you absolutely hate Ryuko you're not going to like the show.
>>109073186 >9/10 and 10/10 is something a TV anime can't even reach
Well why don't you just say that you're a "10/10 is perfect" fag, seriously I hate that shit.
10/10 is reserved for a masterpiece IN GENRE AND MEDIUM, if we go by that logic no Anime could ever hope to scratch my 9/10 or hell mostly even 8/10 because they don't measure up to the best live action movies of all time.
>>109073258 >why didn't Trigger not make her a stupid retard? You couldn't relate or empathize with her issues, so as a result you didn't like her. Plenty of people did, though. It's as simple as that I guess.
>>109073328 >Plenty of people did, though And that number seems to be going down by the day. In all seriousness, saying that people didn't like KlK because they didn't care for Ryuuko is a pretty stupid way to shove the other million or so of the show's flaws under the rug.
And I'm sorry I can't empathize with stupid retards.
>>109073186 People tend to have different ideas of what certain ratings mean to them. That's what we call an opinion, and people on 4chan never fail to flip out when people have one that disagrees with theirs.
Dislike Kill la Kill all you want. It won't stop me from enjoying it, you know?
>>109073290 Objectively NGE would get 8 gravitating towards 9 from me. And this is coming from a guy who has watched the show 17 times. There is a major animation slump in the second half, the last arc of the show becomes a bit formulaic, 25/26 were placeholders.
>>109072512 >Shit, if we're going down that path we should just have the show take place in a vacuum with Ryuuko and Senketsu as the sole characters. Because that's basically what Trigger did in the end.
What he said is to leave the Devas to become the Beastmen 2.0 and take advantage of all that spotlight to do something more coherent if they weren't going places with them in the first place.
Remember that Nakashima wanted the Devas to become more than the four Beastmen and he was in the right path, some of them even got episodes dedicated, but the second cour got so convulted that they the only got reduced to have "cool short scenes".
>>109073374 >And that number seems to be going down by the day.
What makes you say that? The people who liked Ryuko in all likelihood still like her.
>saying that people didn't like KlK because they didn't care for Ryuuko is a pretty stupid way to shove the other million or so of the show's flaws Bit of an exaggeration, yes it has flaws, but the people who absolutely seem to despise the way the show went probably also do not like Ryuko as a character.
>And I'm sorry I can't empathize with stupid retards. But she isn't that, she's a teenager. She's a normal teenager with relatively relatable issues in a show with a bunch of abnormal teenagers. Like that guy said, the show really rides on you relating to or emphasizing with Ryuko, if you don't at all then your enjoyment of the show will suffer.
>>109073477 >10/10 is reserved for a masterpiece IN GENRE AND MEDIUM My humble opinion >10/10 is a masterpiece regardless of medium (and probably genre) that a TV anime can't hope to achieve Retarded opinion of the guy I quoted, the example I gave was just to showcase how retarded that guy is
>>109073454 >come with genuine reasons why you don't like her character and maybe I can agree in some ways Boring and annoying, for the most part. Her character development that was established in the first cour and early second is destroyed in the Bakemono Arc so she can figure out the exact same thing she discovered in the Berserk Arc: that she wants to wear Senketsu. Compound that with the fact that Trigger felt it necessary to push everyone else to the sidelines so she'd have a shot at standing out, and her nonsensical and genuinely retarded actions, and you have a thoroughly unlikable, stupid little bitch.
I mean, there were plenty of opportunities for characters like Uzu or Nonon to have some actual instrospection or internal doubts. Nothing wrong with having resolve, but it would have been nice to have that resolve being actually tested.
>>109073725 I think the reason you hate her is because she is a strong woman with a lot of willpower, you prefer your girls to be submissive and weak. A reason for this is because you hate women in real life.
>>109073737 >NGE(all episodes, 25/26 included) was a true 10/10 That's forcing it, you have to knock down points for the sub-par animation slump they hit mid-point, and I am not talking about the prolonged stills, but off model character directly in the foreground.
And as I said 22, 23 and 24 are a bit to formulaic. It's like "Oh now is the time for characters to get mentally raped one after the other."
>>109073638 People put way too much emphasis on numbers, in every single medium, never mind the fact that if I had to guess the numbers that guy posted was probably just rating his own enjoyment on a scale from 8/10 and little else, not comparing it to other shows, even in the same genre.
>>109070460 >slogfest to try to rewatch an entire 24 episode show so soon, let alone several fucking times, even if it's one I enjoyed. I watched Captain Tylor three times in two weeks from start to finish, sometimes without taking breaks, right after buying the VHS box set.
>>109073901 >I liked KLK more than Magnetic Rose in any case. >Feel free to call me the cancer of /a/,
Well at least you understand you have shit taste. Why can't people differentiate their subjective taste from objective quality. My second favourite anime is Blue Submarine No.6, but hell I can't rate that past 6/10 because of the vomit-inducing Gonzo CGI
>>109074333 What does anime have to do with the opinion of scholars? Is there a fucking class where people organize anime into shit tier and god tier? Are there anime scholars? Does it pay? Do you even know what you're saying?
Rating systems don't have an entirely objective scale. You can try to say it has one but in the end when most people rate things there are going to be discrepancies on things where people feel "points" need to be knocked off or not, someone might notice the sub par animation NGE hit for example, but when it comes time for someone to rate it it might not be something that comes in to their mind.
When discussing reviews people need to read what the person actually wrote and put less emphasis on the number they put on the end of what they wrote. It's absolutely retarded how much emphasis people put on scores to the point where in the video game industry peoples bonuses can sometimes depend on what the average score on Metacritic is.
>"Trigger gonna save anime!" >"New project Kill la Kill is gonna save anime!" >KLK comes out >"Hurr just kidding, of course we knew this would be a stupid show with lots of fanservice. But don't worry, it's actually a satire on fanservice"
If we allow for the existence of objective truth, then the informed opinion is closer to it, as such it carries more weight. That's why screaming "all opinions are subjective" is a curse pun on us by Einstein and Post-modernism
>>109075006 Here's the difference between an informed opinion and an opinion.
An informed opinion is where you tie in facts with how you personally feel. For example, X person did this, and then X said this, but X also said this here, so I don't think X person is X.
But when it comes to anime, it's all a subjective opinion. What facts can you gain from an anime? "The animation was bad"? What pleases the eye is different to everyone. "The story line was bad"? A good story line is different for everyone. "It was too fast-paced"? Some people like fast-paced anime. "There wasn't enough character development"? Again, an opinion. Some people can get more from a character within a few sentences they say than we can get from an entire story arc. That all has to do with how people interpret things.
The only thing you could really argue for an anime's success with an "informed opinion" is how much money it garners.
>>109075298 >What pleases the eye is different to everyone No it isn't. There are fuzzy lines, of course. But if any animation was fine, they wouldn't train animators for years to create their animation. Same for script writers and composers.
>>109075367 I'm pretty sure no one would really like what looked like chicken scratch, but certain animation styles the artists have are really up to the opinion of the audience. For example, I really fucking despise the animation style of Sailor Moon Crystal, but other people are pissing themselves over it.
I also should've said this in the original post, but if everyone thinks the same thing when it comes to what's pleasing to the eye, why the fuck do we have chubby chasers? Because what's pleasing to the eye actually IS different to everyone.
>>109075524 >They even made Satsuki say "we're finally free of the Kiryuuin karma".
Doesn't mean jack shit when the Life Fibers are going to return and the conflict will start anew. The cycle is just repeating itself. This is why the show is garbage, the plot shit itself so bad nothing makes sense on any level
>>109075616 Are you really that dense? >In deepest samadhi, absorption is so complete that all sense of "self" disappears, and subject and object are completely absorbed into each other. >We're not clothing and we're not human. But we are clothing and we are human! We're everything!
>>109075634 There won't be a new cycle, humanity will always be humanity no matter what threats come and go. You are literally trying to come up with a counter-argument that holds absolutely no weight.
>>109075634 The Kiryuin curse has more to do with how her family were slaves to it and served them. Even IF the Life Fibers come back obviously Satsuki's family will not be serving it and trying to carry out their will. That died with Ragyo.
>>109075786 I know you're saying it sarcastically, but yes, that's right. The only thing that can't be subjective is a fact, and whether an anime is good or not can't be a fact. Did you seriously never learn the difference between what makes an opinion and what makes a fact?
>>109075889 It's a fact that my shitty fingerpaintings are worse than the works of Beksi?ski or whoever else. If your philosophy thinks that they are equally valid forms of art, you can shove it up your ass.
>>109076025 I agree with you, technical merits are everything. But I don't think you have any kind of understanding of the technical merits involved in either painting or anime-making so your opinion is virtually worthless.
>>109075945 There won't be a new cycle because the Kiryuin family no longer serves the Life Fibers. If they come back humanity will just beat it again, there's no cycle where humanity gets pushed to the brink again.
>>109076025 I agree with you and I think you're fucking retarded if you don't think "fingerpaintings" can be valid forms of art. Technical merit is objective in writing, painting and even animation but it doesn't mean what you think it means. For example, I honestly think you don't really understand what makes an objectively good book good.
>>109076159 I'm a fucking different guy. If you believe the technical merits of painting involve anything as superficial as realism then you're pretty damn uninformed. There is some pretty obvious technical merit on a Kandinsky, for example.
>>109076244 The use language, duh. That's what separates literary literature (which places its primary emphasis in form and THEMATIC content) from pop-literature (which places its primary emphasis in silly things like plot).
>>109076301 But that isn't even the point. A painting can have as many 'technical merits' as possible, there is always atleast gonna be someone who doesn't like the painting for whatever reason. He believes the painting is not good. According to you this scenario is impossible because the painting is objectively good.
>>109076585 >No that's her karmic cycle, of which she isn't free.
So you agree with me then when I say that the Kiryuin karmic cycle was that family carrying out the Life Fibers will, then? Ryuko has her karmic cycle of being the best option against fighting them, but the cycle of the Life Fibers being served by members of Satsuki's family is over, they're free of that. If Satsuki has children she won't force them in to that that like her mother tried to and Life Fibers won't be entwined with their lives.
If they come back Ryuko has to fight them and get rid of them, that's the cycle that she is in, not the same as the karmic cycle the rest of her family was in for generations.
I absolutely loved KLK, but objectively I can see why people would say it's shitty. Episodes 1-4 were totally awesome, but eps 5-15 or so were mostly just repetitive "Boss of the Week" fighting episodes with very little movement in the plot, worst part being the Tri-City raid arc, which was just...a special kind of stupid. Eps 16-18 (the PLOT TWIST arc) was the show's strongest point. Not just the literal backstab, but the whole reveal on how Life Fibers are alien lifeforms that sped up humanity's evolution. I thought that was a pretty novel explanation for why humans are the only species that wear clothes, why humans are so intellectually superior, etc. After that, the show was not quite amazing, kind of all over the place, but still pretty fun. As for the characters, not one of them got the development they deserved (except perhaps Ryuko and Senketsu) but for some reason I still found everyone very likeable and memorable. The animation was pretty low-q for the most part, but for some reason I didn't have a problem with this as I usually do. In fact I felt like the messiness and at times deliberately half-assed nature of the animation fit the show extremely well.
In summary: objectively most of the important aspects of the show (story, characters, animation) are kind of sub-par. But there's a certain energy and enthusiasm among all that sub-parness that made me love the show anyways. It just had a lot of personality, which most shows lack. I'll remember KLK for a very long time.
No Kill la Kill was fine I had a great time watching it and I'm currently re-watching it with a group of friends if you all are looking serious death tragedy and suffering there is plenty for you faggots to watch
Wow this whole thread is cancer Kill la Kill was like Hot Fuzz an action comedy paying homage to actions other movies. most of you people are complaining about things that don't even matter because it was just part of the ride yet you kids are all bent out of shape over nothing.
>>109069666 I wouldn't say a fanbase can effect the actual quality of a show ( well except for Avatar where it's creators tried to appeal to the same shitty shipper landwhales that didn't get that it was an action show. But that's /co/shit) or product. They can however make you retroactively hate it.
I mostly disliked K-ON! because of it's obnoxious fanbase I disliked Naruto for the same reason.
For a /v/ example i disliked the PS3 because of it's fans.
>>109070941 And somehow despite the massive hype, snk fans are still less obnoxious than klk, even with all the western attention snk is getting/got. The fucking snk manga showed up at my local library (in the US) for fucks sake, it isn't just an abundance of newfags, or snk would be worse, it's stupid newfags combined with tons of shit taste otaku.
But why bash the fanbase anyways? Didn't we all have fun shopping the shit out of every frame? Wasn't it great when loadsazeni happened? How about that time when we hyped it together? I agree the show attracted plenty of newfags, included myself, and /v/ermin but we still managed to enjoy the ride regardless. I thought it was really cool to be part of that, at least in here.
it's the same thing Kill la Kill stayed fun through out and they made sure it never got serious. like most of this thread is crying about the climate for anime is so fucking shit right now where we get a legit show that not trying tear at your heart with pure suffering or cuteness and you faggots sit here and berate it for not being like all the other garbage out
>>109085037 >snk fans are still less obnoxious than klk, I've met a lot of people who liked KLK but the highest praised it's garnered was that it was a fun show and they enjoyed it none of the 10/10 BEST ANIME EVAR of the SnK crowd.
How couldn't you tell? the Nudist Beach Mecha? all the jokes with Gama all the old anime references? all the comedy elements where there the whole time, face it you wanted Kill la Kill to be something it wasn't from the get go
>>109072408 >>109072455 >>109084191 >The rest of the cast at least have proper motivations. Fucking Takarada was a better character then Ryuuko. You just proved his point retards. Once you brought up Takarada a character that's only used as a purpose of an unfunny meme you lost the argument.
>>109072441 >but they shouldn't have bothered to give the Devas the attention and detail they got in the first cour in the first place They didn't get that much attention to begin with, you fags just blew things out of proportion.
>>109085601 >implying Monkey's character development: >I'm a cocky bastard and I get my shit handed to me but then I man the fuck up and learn from my mistakes until Trigger forgets that I did that and makes me a cocky bastard again so I can job to some 2hu reject Ryuuko's character "development": >JESUS FUCK WHY CAN'T I STOP LOSING MY WAY HOLY SHIT NOW I KNOW I WANT TO DO THE THING I WAS FUCKING DOING ALL SERIES LONG OH MY GOD TIME FOR A STUPID SPACE BATTLE MOM PLS COME BACK EVEN THOUGH YOURE EVIL OH NO SENKETSU WHY
>>109068581 >Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that kill la kill was shit?
Wasn't "bestest thing evah!" either.
I would rate it at about a 7.5/10. It had some great visuals and characters, but I really felt the story and plot were underdeveloped and lacked any real fleshing out. The Alien spore angel sorta wasn't my cup of tea, either.
It's a show that would have really benefited from going more into the past a bit with the character relations.
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