PS2 era Horror Games

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>>508503

That one there might have been early ps3/360 or something but nonetheless

100% ambient lightning adjusted exposure for light/darkness of area, baked shadows/ao inside the models, done.

>>508506

Do you think they even had high poly models to bake or they just painted ontop the model/painted in photoshop and/or used real photographs to texture?

>>508507

Thats how they textured the cars in the first gran turismo. High quality inch by inch photos only to be downsized to 128 or whatever

I have a question but I did not wanted to make a separate thread for this.

I have a hard time finding the wording so its hard to google.
In unreal engine 4 when you import a character model fbx, it comes without the textures so I apply those manually. The character looks ok but is there a way to apply materials so that the character looks more realistic? Or is this purely a lighting thing?

>>508580
you would have to fuck with the shader
I think the wording is shader so uh realistic shader in unreal 4

>>508584
That helps a lot anon, thank you for the information.

Remember that they were working with tech that wasn't available to the modern equivalent of their design staff. Work basic, but aim for good results.

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>>508502
for one, light information in textures. capcom often uses straight up photos for their textures, even using obvious flash photos, sometimes keeping the reflection of the flash and sharp shadows in there too. silent hill on the other hand didn't use straight photographs as much, and tended to edit them a lot more.
the SH games didn't have many seamless looping textures, and used more individualized texture atlas solutions for almost everything. they sometimes used decals but tended to put unique detail just straight into the diffuse textures. left side of my pic is an example, it's from where cynthia is killed at the start of SH4. this is sort of an extreme example; they usually give walls and big stuff more texture space, and make them a bit more generally-usable in a modular (but not seamless) way, less individual.
i don't believe SH uses lightmaps, at least with separate lightmap texture and UV channel and such. when they bake lighting to a texture, they often do it straight into the diffuse texture, meaning also that these areas with baked lighting have completely unique UV space for everything. the most obvious example is henry's apartment in 4, in which everything is uniquely textured because the light & shadow is baked straight into it. see right side of pic, the hole in henry's bathroom.

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>>508689
oh, they also use shadow decals, where they have decals of transparent baked shadows, which you can see in the left of my image (leftmost is some generic AO shadows from SH3 and to the right of it are some more specific directional shadows from SH4).
the other static lighting they use is in vertex color. all the meshes are pretty evenly subdivided to allow this (visible in right of image; that's part of the environment of building world in SH4). whether this is auto baked or if they paint themselves i don't know, but considering the rest of the art, i could believe them doing it manually like that. the vertex lighting is never very extreme and could be considered to be depicting the ambient light in most cases.
the character face textures look mostly hand painted. their clothes, however, look mostly photographed.
i think there might be some vertex specular for a couple things, but usually when there is some specular it's just subtly painted into the texture. i think in SH2 some enemies had a shiny look to them, and i believe they did that with a fake general "white shine" cubemap.
anyway there's more i could go into but this is fine for now... it's sleep time anyway.
as for doing this stuff in unity or ue, you'll just basically use only diffuse, vertex shaded (with vertex coloring), and unlit materials. the textures are doing most of the work in these games, so i'd suggest doing what i did: rip them, then study em.

>>508689
>>508690

Many thanks for your information, please feel free to continue if you have time.

Why does the scrne/environment on the right in your second post (shtex2.png ) have so many subdevisions/cuts for plain flat surfaces?
Vertex lighting? Some kind of strange tiling texture thing?